I think starting with Ufuk's draft, de-cluttering it is a good start. - Having a more prominent tag line - Add some pictures for features back - align the content as per Felix' suggestion
That should give us a faster quick overview, but keep some serious content in the starting page. I especially like that we have the stack figure and the recent blog posts on the new website - that we should keep no matter what. On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Kostas Tzoumas <ktzou...@apache.org> wrote: > Good points raised by Stephan, Felix, and Volker. > > Do you think we can achieve this by iterating on the new design? One thing > we can indeed do is de-clutter a bit. Apart from that, what high level > points would you like to see in the frontpage? > > On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 6:16 AM, Markl, Volker, Prof. Dr. < > volker.ma...@tu-berlin.de> wrote: > > > -1 > > > > Dear all, > > > > first and foremost, thanks to Ufuk, for the new design. > > > > However, I agree with Felix that the current page is more of a > > documentation than a front page. > > > > I wonder where would people who do not know about Flink already find what > > it is about quickly in a concise way? > > I believe that the landing page should give information about features > in > > a "declarative way" (what, not how ;-) ) > > before going into details. > > > > I also believe that the current page does a better job on this than the > > new design. To me the new design looks like > > a perfect architecture page and intro to the documentation, but not like > > the starting page of the project. > > > > Best, > > Volker > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: ewenstep...@gmail.com [mailto:ewenstep...@gmail.com] Im Auftrag von > > Stephan Ewen > > Gesendet: Montag, 11. Mai 2015 22:01 > > An: dev@flink.apache.org > > Betreff: Re: New project website > > > > I agree that we should have a "more serious content, less happy hipster" > > website. > > > > The current one is very nice, but I also think it has a tendency to pack > > too much content into a small space. > > For me (and probably other old people with less-than-sharp eyes), it may > > help to space things out a bit... > > > > On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Timo Walther <twal...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > > > I completely agree with Robert. Less marketing, more technical > > > information targeted to the user group. > > > > > > I think the diagram could be a little bit larger and the blog post > > > smaller, so that the lines meet in the middle ;) > > > > > > > > > On 11.05.2015 14:39, Robert Metzger wrote: > > > > > >> I think its fine when the front page looks a little bit more like a > > >> documentation. > > >> Flink is no fancy hipster app, our users are either sysops running it > > >> on a cluster or developers programming against APIs. > > >> I think the new website will convince this target audience. > > >> > > >> I agree with you that aligning the vertical separators might help > > >> visual structure of the page. I think we "only" need to center the > > >> vertical separator between the getting started and the blog/community > > section. > > >> The positioning of the first line is fine, in my opinion.... > > >> > > >> > > >> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Felix Neutatz > > >> <neut...@googlemail.com> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> Hi Ufuk, > > >>> > > >>> I really like the idea of redesigning the start page. But in my > > >>> opinion your page design looks more like a documentation webpage > > >>> than a starting page. > > >>> > > >>> In my personal opinion I like the current design better, since you > > >>> get a really quick overview with many fancy pictures. (So if you > > >>> wanna dive in deep, you can check out things in the documentation > > or/and wiki). > > >>> > > >>> Moreover I have some design issue. Can you align the structure that > > >>> there aren't as many overlaps. Here you can see what I mean: > > >>> http://postimg.org/image/paogu6f3h/ > > >>> > > >>> This is only my personal opinion, maybe I have a wrong idea about > > >>> starting pages. > > >>> > > >>> Best regards, > > >>> Felix > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> 2015-05-11 14:06 GMT+02:00 Hermann Gábor <reckone...@gmail.com>: > > >>> > > >>> Great! > > >>>> It looks way better than the current site :) > > >>>> > > >>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:28 PM Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> I think we may have to remove the term "Language Integrated > > >>>> Queries", I > > >>>>> think that is trademarked by Microsoft. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Otherwise, +1 > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Maximilian Michels > > >>>>> <m...@apache.org> > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> +1 very nice comprehensive overhaul of the website. I'd suggest > > >>>>> to > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> merge > > >>>> > > >>>>> this as soon as possible. We can incrementally fix the remaining > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> issues > > >>> > > >>>> and > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> add a twitter feed to the front page. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Ted Dunning > > >>>>>> <ted.dunn...@gmail.com > > >>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> If there is an active twitter entity for Flink, I recommend > > >>>>>> framing > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> that > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> on > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> the home page. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Ufuk Celebi <u...@apache.org> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Hey all, > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> I reworked the project website the last couple of days and > > >>>>>>>> would > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> like > > >>>> > > >>>>> to > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> share the preview: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> http://uce.github.io/flink-web/ > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> I would like to get this in asap. We can push incremental > > >>>>>>>> updates > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> at > > >>>> > > >>>>> any > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> time, but I think this version is a big improvement over the > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> current > > >>>> > > >>>>> status > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> quo. If I get some +1s I'll go ahead and update the website > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> today. > > >>> > > >>>> – Ufuk > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >
