PS. Is there a particular reason why the APIs are stacked above each other in the picture (ML on top of Gelly on top of the Table API)? I was actually picturing the three next to each other...
2015-05-12 12:08 GMT+02:00 Alexander Alexandrov < alexander.s.alexand...@gmail.com>: > I suggest to change the layout of the bottom half in the following way > (will solve the alignment issue): > > - 2 column layout in 1:1 ratio for *Getting Started*, 1st column with the > text and the download button, second column with the maven code snippets > - 2 column layout in 1:1 ratio for the *Recent Blog Posts *and *Community* > below the *Getting Started* row. The first column should contain the > latest blog posts, the second the community content > > In addition, I think the top row text to be slightly revised. Flink offers > a unified runtime and APIs for both batch + streaming, but at the moment > the tagline suggests it is streaming only. > > Regards, > Alexander > > > 2015-05-12 10:55 GMT+02:00 Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org>: > >> I think starting with Ufuk's draft, de-cluttering it is a good start. >> >> - Having a more prominent tag line >> - Add some pictures for features back >> - align the content as per Felix' suggestion >> >> That should give us a faster quick overview, but keep some serious content >> in the starting page. >> >> I especially like that we have the stack figure and the recent blog posts >> on the new website - that we should keep no matter what. >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Kostas Tzoumas <ktzou...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> >> > Good points raised by Stephan, Felix, and Volker. >> > >> > Do you think we can achieve this by iterating on the new design? One >> thing >> > we can indeed do is de-clutter a bit. Apart from that, what high level >> > points would you like to see in the frontpage? >> > >> > On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 6:16 AM, Markl, Volker, Prof. Dr. < >> > volker.ma...@tu-berlin.de> wrote: >> > >> > > -1 >> > > >> > > Dear all, >> > > >> > > first and foremost, thanks to Ufuk, for the new design. >> > > >> > > However, I agree with Felix that the current page is more of a >> > > documentation than a front page. >> > > >> > > I wonder where would people who do not know about Flink already find >> what >> > > it is about quickly in a concise way? >> > > I believe that the landing page should give information about >> features >> > in >> > > a "declarative way" (what, not how ;-) ) >> > > before going into details. >> > > >> > > I also believe that the current page does a better job on this than >> the >> > > new design. To me the new design looks like >> > > a perfect architecture page and intro to the documentation, but not >> like >> > > the starting page of the project. >> > > >> > > Best, >> > > Volker >> > > >> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> > > Von: ewenstep...@gmail.com [mailto:ewenstep...@gmail.com] Im Auftrag >> von >> > > Stephan Ewen >> > > Gesendet: Montag, 11. Mai 2015 22:01 >> > > An: dev@flink.apache.org >> > > Betreff: Re: New project website >> > > >> > > I agree that we should have a "more serious content, less happy >> hipster" >> > > website. >> > > >> > > The current one is very nice, but I also think it has a tendency to >> pack >> > > too much content into a small space. >> > > For me (and probably other old people with less-than-sharp eyes), it >> may >> > > help to space things out a bit... >> > > >> > > On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Timo Walther <twal...@apache.org> >> > wrote: >> > > >> > > > I completely agree with Robert. Less marketing, more technical >> > > > information targeted to the user group. >> > > > >> > > > I think the diagram could be a little bit larger and the blog post >> > > > smaller, so that the lines meet in the middle ;) >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On 11.05.2015 14:39, Robert Metzger wrote: >> > > > >> > > >> I think its fine when the front page looks a little bit more like a >> > > >> documentation. >> > > >> Flink is no fancy hipster app, our users are either sysops running >> it >> > > >> on a cluster or developers programming against APIs. >> > > >> I think the new website will convince this target audience. >> > > >> >> > > >> I agree with you that aligning the vertical separators might help >> > > >> visual structure of the page. I think we "only" need to center the >> > > >> vertical separator between the getting started and the >> blog/community >> > > section. >> > > >> The positioning of the first line is fine, in my opinion.... >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Felix Neutatz >> > > >> <neut...@googlemail.com> >> > > >> wrote: >> > > >> >> > > >> Hi Ufuk, >> > > >>> >> > > >>> I really like the idea of redesigning the start page. But in my >> > > >>> opinion your page design looks more like a documentation webpage >> > > >>> than a starting page. >> > > >>> >> > > >>> In my personal opinion I like the current design better, since you >> > > >>> get a really quick overview with many fancy pictures. (So if you >> > > >>> wanna dive in deep, you can check out things in the documentation >> > > or/and wiki). >> > > >>> >> > > >>> Moreover I have some design issue. Can you align the structure >> that >> > > >>> there aren't as many overlaps. Here you can see what I mean: >> > > >>> http://postimg.org/image/paogu6f3h/ >> > > >>> >> > > >>> This is only my personal opinion, maybe I have a wrong idea about >> > > >>> starting pages. >> > > >>> >> > > >>> Best regards, >> > > >>> Felix >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> 2015-05-11 14:06 GMT+02:00 Hermann Gábor <reckone...@gmail.com>: >> > > >>> >> > > >>> Great! >> > > >>>> It looks way better than the current site :) >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:28 PM Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> >> > > wrote: >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> I think we may have to remove the term "Language Integrated >> > > >>>> Queries", I >> > > >>>>> think that is trademarked by Microsoft. >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> Otherwise, +1 >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Maximilian Michels >> > > >>>>> <m...@apache.org> >> > > >>>>> wrote: >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> +1 very nice comprehensive overhaul of the website. I'd suggest >> > > >>>>> to >> > > >>>>>> >> > > >>>>> merge >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>>> this as soon as possible. We can incrementally fix the remaining >> > > >>>>>> >> > > >>>>> issues >> > > >>> >> > > >>>> and >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>>> add a twitter feed to the front page. >> > > >>>>>> >> > > >>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Ted Dunning >> > > >>>>>> <ted.dunn...@gmail.com >> > > >>>>>> wrote: >> > > >>>>>> >> > > >>>>>> If there is an active twitter entity for Flink, I recommend >> > > >>>>>> framing >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>> that >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>>> on >> > > >>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> the home page. >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Ufuk Celebi <u...@apache.org> >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>> wrote: >> > > >>> >> > > >>>> Hey all, >> > > >>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>>> I reworked the project website the last couple of days and >> > > >>>>>>>> would >> > > >>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> like >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>>> to >> > > >>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> share the preview: >> > > >>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>>> http://uce.github.io/flink-web/ >> > > >>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>>> I would like to get this in asap. We can push incremental >> > > >>>>>>>> updates >> > > >>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> at >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>>> any >> > > >>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> time, but I think this version is a big improvement over the >> > > >>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> current >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>>> status >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>>> quo. If I get some +1s I'll go ahead and update the website >> > > >>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> today. >> > > >>> >> > > >>>> – Ufuk >> > > >>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >