On 6/25/14 11:27 PM, "Justin Mclean" <jus...@classsoftware.com> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>> I do not believe the legal-discuss folks agree that there is a legal
>> requirement, otherwise they would require us to change LICENSE and
>>NOTICE
>> which they have not.
>
>Which is why the advice was to add it to the LICENSE file. While it's not
>mandated by the Apache license, it may be a legal requirement to
>acknowledge copyright. The only way to be be sure would be to ask Google.
>As acknowledgment is easy done and doesn't involve asking Google lawyers
>I think that's the easier path - don't you?
No, IMO, #1 is the easiest and safest path.  FWIW, I do find it
interesting that Apache does not definea place to list the upstream
dependencies in a project.  That's why I've delayed the releases to try to
get better guidance on this issue.  But they did not advise us to modify
LICENSE.  Henri said we should do nothing and Kevan said we "could" modify
LICENSE but not that we "must".

My triangulation of the advice from legal-discuss and the documents the
referenced is to do nothing.  Precedence has not won the day in any
legal-discuss argument, and some hard-liners who did not weigh in on that
legal-discuss thread often slam others for not perfectly executing the
rules in the reference documents.

That's why I also asked about README as it allows us to state a dependency
without "breaking the rules" on those documents.

It was my understanding that the part where they suggested asking Google
was about attribution in NOTICE, not in LICENSE.  It is still a confusing
mess, but the last statement from Kevan is that both he and Henri don't
think we have to do anything, but if we really want to, he thinks we can
get away with changing LICENSE even though he did not rebut my argument
that the documents imply that we should not do that.

Simply put, you and I are going to vote for different solutions, so I'm
hoping for a tie-breaker.  I'm not going to try to convince you, but I am
going to challenge the use of arguments that I don't think are
substantiated by the guidance we got on legal-discuss.

-Alex

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