Shane from Apache Brand Management contacted me on Monday, their lawyers are looking into making this happen. Thanks for your help Alex!
_______________________________________________________________________ Joseph Balderson, Flex & Flash Platform Developer :: http://joeflash.ca Author, Professional Flex 3 :: http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book Alex Harui wrote: > We're still waiting on more information from trademarks. Sunday was when > I last heard from them last week, so I'm hoping we'll hear something today. > > Thanks for being patient. > > -Alex > > On 1/12/14 1:32 AM, "Joseph Balderson" <n...@joeflash.ca> wrote: > >> Any news, Alex? >> >> Thanks, >> _______________________________________________________________________ >> >> Joseph Balderson, Flex & Flash Platform Developer :: http://joeflash.ca >> Author, Professional Flex 3 :: http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book >> >> Joseph Balderson wrote: >>> apacheflexexamples.com >>> a continuance of flexexamples.com by Peter >>> DeHaan >>> >>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> Joseph Balderson, Flex & Flash Platform Developer :: http://joeflash.ca >>> Author, Professional Flex 3 :: http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book >>> >>> Stephane Beladaci wrote: >>>> Joseph, what is the name you are actually going to use? Does it >>>> contain only >>>> Flex or Apache Flex? >>>> >>>> Alex, could you ask Apache trademark the registration numbers related >>>> to >>>> Flex? I could not find any entry in the USPTO registry. Also, trademark >>>> disclaimer on the site does not include "Flex", it reads: "Apache Flex, >>>> Apache and the Apache feather logo are trademarks of The Apache >>>> Software >>>> Foundation". >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Joseph Balderson [mailto:n...@joeflash.ca] >>>> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2014 11:39 PM >>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org >>>> Subject: Re: Apache Flex Examples Proposal >>>> >>>> Alex, how is Apache trademarks going to be aware of the full intent of >>>> the >>>> future site if you cannot forward the contents of my proposal detailed >>>> above? I gotta be honest man, I am really not liking where this is >>>> going. >>>> Methinks it might have been better to allow me the opportunity to >>>> describe >>>> the project a little more formally before submitting a proposal on my >>>> behalf? I came to this list seeking advice on protocol, not to have the >>>> trademark request submitted without my knowledge. >>>> >>>> Please advise. >>>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Joseph Balderson, Flex & Flash Platform Developer :: http://joeflash.ca >>>> Author, Professional Flex 3 :: http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book >>>> >>>> Alex Harui wrote: >>>>> Trademarks is a private list so I can't forward without permission. >>>>> I >>>>> will say that I did get a response today and the answer was not an >>>>> unequivocal "no". More discussion has to happen in private before a >>>>> final ruling is made. >>>>> >>>>> -Alex >>>>> >>>>> On 1/4/14 12:44 PM, "Joseph Balderson" <n...@joeflash.ca> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Alex. If you could forward me a copy of their reply off-list >>>>>> to jbdes...@joeflash.ca and/or forward them my email, that would be >>>>>> greatly appreciated. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _____________________________________________________________________ >>>>>> __ >>>>>> >>>>>> Joseph Balderson, Flex & Flash Platform Developer :: >>>>>> http://joeflash.ca Author, Professional Flex 3 :: >>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book >>>>>> >>>>>> Joseph Balderson wrote: >>>>>>> My only concern is that, in the absence of the details contained in >>>>>>> my formal request as outlined below, the initial contact to Apache >>>>>>> trademarks regarding this issue might not constitute "putting our >>>>>>> best foot forward" in having this use case approved. And since I do >>>>>>> not know the content of your initial communication to them on my >>>>>>> behalf, I cannot say one way or another. It would ease my mind to >>>>>>> know that Apache were aware of the contents of my proposal before >>>>>>> reaching a verdict, which is why I wonder if waiting to send them >>>>>>> this information would be the wisest course of action. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks very much for your help, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Joseph >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>> ___ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Joseph Balderson, Flex & Flash Platform Developer :: >>>>>>> http://joeflash.ca Author, Professional Flex 3 :: >>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Alex Harui wrote: >>>>>>>> Joe, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If it were me, I'd wait until Tuesday to contact trademarks@a.o. >>>>>>>> I've already asked trademarks for their guidance on this matter >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> they haven't responded yet. I did see trademarks answer another >>>>>>>> email, but they may not be fully engaged and caught up on >>>>>>>> everything >>>> until Monday. >>>>>>>> I would suggest tweaking it a bit to make it clear you've read the >>>>>>>> domain name policy documents on the Apache site, otherwise the >>>>>>>> first response you get might just be a pointer to those documents. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It is pretty clear to me from those documents that you will have >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> have a disclaimer on your site. >>>>>>>> IMO, asking "if desired" implies that you haven't read those >>>>>>>> documents. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Alex >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 1/3/14 7:17 PM, "Joseph Balderson" <n...@joeflash.ca> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> FYI, here is my official request proposal to Apache. Alex, if you >>>>>>>>> would be so kind as to forward this on to the folks at Apache >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> would be greatly appreciated. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> January 3, 2014 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To Who It May Concern, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My name is Joseph Balderson, and I am a professional ActionScript >>>>>>>>> 3.0 developer of 13 years, and a specialist Flex developer for 8 >>>>>>>>> years now as of January 2014. >>>>>>>>> I have been, in my professional life as an ActionScript >>>>>>>>> developer, >>>>>>>>> an Adobe-certified Trainer, a teacher of Flash programming at >>>>>>>>> Humber College in Toronto, a speaker at user groups, and a >>>>>>>>> professional tech writer. I have tech edited a number of books by >>>>>>>>> Peachpit, Friends of Ed and O'Reilly, and in >>>>>>>>> 2009 I >>>>>>>>> lead a 6-person team to write a 1400-page book Professional Adobe >>>>>>>>> Flex 3 by Wrox Publishing, rated 4.5 out of 5 stars on Amazon. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> With the migration of the Flex framework from Adobe to Apache, >>>>>>>>> good internet resources for Flex have fallen through the cracks, >>>>>>>>> namely Tour De Flex and flexexamples.com, both of which have >>>>>>>>> functioned as essential micro-tutorial resources for the >>>>>>>>> beginner, >>>>>>>>> a quick reference for the more experienced programmer, and >>>>>>>>> visibility on its use to managers and stakeholders. >>>>>>>>> These >>>>>>>>> two >>>>>>>>> resources have yet to be migrated/updated to Apache Flex. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thus, seeing a need in the programming community, and wanting to >>>>>>>>> help restore and promote the adoption of Flex for its own sake, I >>>>>>>>> have purchased the domain apacheflexexamples.com, with the >>>>>>>>> intention of turning it into a micro-tutorial site with the same >>>>>>>>> purpose and intent of the former flexexamples.com. >>>>>>>>> (An >>>>>>>>> archive of the site as it existed prior to Flex's migration from >>>>>>>>> Adobe to Apache in 2012 can be seen here: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://web.archive.org/web/20111010030748/http://blog.flexexample >>>>>>>>> s.com >>>>>>>>> / >>>>>>>>> ). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To be specific, the purpose and features of >>>>>>>>> apacheflexexamples.com >>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>> include: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1) provide blog-like micro-tutorials; >>>>>>>>> 2) will be administrated and authored by myself, Joseph Balderson >>>>>>>>> 3) tutorials will be short, on average "single page", thus no >>>>>>>>> code >>>>>>>>> repository or downloads of any kind will be necessary; >>>>>>>>> 4) where possible the most recent version of Apache Flex will be >>>>>>>>> used and indicated; >>>>>>>>> 5) an average of one post per business day will be issued on the >>>>>>>>> site; >>>>>>>>> 6) commenting will be disabled, and users will be encouraged to >>>>>>>>> discuss the tutorials on the official us...@flex.apache.org list; >>>>>>>>> 7) an email address will be set up where users can contact the >>>>>>>>> administrator >>>>>>>>> (me) for the specific purpose of pointing out typos or problems >>>>>>>>> specific to the examples which are non-specific to Flex framework >>>>>>>>> errata issues; >>>>>>>>> 8) a resource/"blogroll" list of resource links will be situated >>>>>>>>> in a prominent location in the left or right column so as to help >>>>>>>>> users refer to official Apache Flex resources; >>>>>>>>> 9) if desired, to avoid confusion with official Apache websites, >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> disclaimer similar to what is currently used in book titles and >>>>>>>>> other publications will be indicated at the top of every page, >>>>>>>>> "Apache, Apache Flex, and Flex are trademarks of The Apache >>>>>>>>> Software Foundation. Used with permission. No endorsement by The >>>>>>>>> Apache Software Foundation is implied by the use of these marks." >>>>>>>>> 10) no personal promotions (other than an author credit on my >>>>>>>>> part), nor any product reviews, endorsements or sales of any kind >>>>>>>>> will be permitted on the >>>>>>>>> site: it is strictly for micro-tutorials pertaining to the Apache >>>>>>>>> Flex framework. (See the flexexamples.com archive as an example) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In addition, if there comes a time when I am no longer willing or >>>>>>>>> able to administer the site or keep up a reasonable posting >>>>>>>>> frequency, I will commit in writing to donating the domain and >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> site administration to the Apache Flex group. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The aim is to have a few dozen examples blogged and ready to go >>>>>>>>> prior to launch sometime in February of 2014. A private beta will >>>>>>>>> be issued, to be reviewed by the Apache Flex development team >>>>>>>>> (and >>>>>>>>> the legal department at Apache if such is >>>>>>>>> desired) to ensure everyone concerned is satisfied with the end >>>>>>>>> result prior to launch. Once the site is launched, posting >>>>>>>>> frequency will be as indicated above. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> All this to say that I am very vested and interested in >>>>>>>>> conserving >>>>>>>>> the quality and integrity of the Apache Flex name. And in order >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> help increase positive adoption of Apache Flex usage, I have >>>>>>>>> purchased this domain with the intent of continuing on the work >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> the esteemed former Adobe employee Peter DeHaan at >>>>>>>>> flexexamples.com with a new site. In the spirit of this intent, I >>>>>>>>> humbly request your permission to use the Apache trademark in the >>>>>>>>> domain name apacheflexexamples.com. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Joseph Balderson >>>>>>>>> Flex Developer & Tech Writer >>>>>>>>> http://www.joeflash.ca >>>>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/joeflash >>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book >>>>>>>>> > >
