I could also suggest that Joe pushes with publishing his examples, even from his own site at the moment. And if Apache would have no concerns with the domain in contention here, then he could move the examples there more properly (and do a redirect from his previous site).
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote: > I would appreciate it if you would not waste resources of Apache by > testing them on this topic. There are a set of lawyers who volunteer time > to Apache to guide them on legal issues. Let's wait until we get an > official reply from trademarks. > > In the meantime, I'd like to hear from the other PMC members. If it is ok > with trademarks, is it ok with us that Joe should be able to use > apacheflexexamples.com? I stated my concerns earlier in this thread. > > -Alex > > On 1/2/14 8:10 PM, "Stephane Beladaci" <adobeflexengin...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >You mean in case Trademark refuse to allow its use and outside lawyers > >confirm it is not fair use righr? Because Trademark, whoever that is is > >not > >god and I start to really dislike this conversation. Let me build one > >then, and tell you when its on production and if you don't like it tell > >trademark to sue me. There is no such thing as bad publicly for > >individuals > >in those cases. Which is why Apache would not sue, wanna bet? > > On Jan 2, 2014 7:31 PM, "Justin Mclean" <jus...@classsoftware.com> > wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> > And here I was thinking that suggestions would come in the form of > >>what > >> people > >> > would like to see on the actual site, not whether the site could > >> actually exist. > >> I don't think anyone thinks the site shouldn't exist, and there's > >>several > >> people that think it's a good idea and are willing to help out. > >> > >> > And part of that community was the old flexexamples.com website: it > >>was > >> not owned directly > >> > by Adobe, it is owned by Peter Dehaan, who happened to work for Adobe > >> If he worked for Adobe as a full time person then they probably do own > >>it. > >> That may be an issue if you intend to reuse some of the examples on your > >> site (and if the content is ever donated to Apache), although I do note > >> they were CC licensed. > >> > >> > It is a "fan site", and will constitutes fair use in my opinion, end > >>of > >> story. > >> I think your good intentions are clear and are certainly not the issue > >> here. > >> > >> Just be aware that the ASF view is that: > >> ... "and please realize that the use of ASF trademarks in your domain > >> names is generally not "nominative fair use." "[1] > >> > >> > I'll release a private beta when the time comes, and all three of us > >>-- > >> > me, the apache suits and the flex team -- can revisit the whole issue > >>at > >> that time. > >> That sounds like a good approach, but I'd suggest you have a backup > >>domain > >> name just in case trademarks decide it can't be used. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Justin > >> > >> 1.http://apache.org/foundation/marks/#domains > >
