>Just for the record: I hate it when the rules get in the way of good
intentions. That's not what the rules are intended for, IMHO. The rules
should be there to avoid abuse, not to discourage use...
>EdB

Erik is right in my opinion. We must balance the need for the Apache
Software Foundation to defend ownership of the brand  and protect software
developers and other stakeholders from being fooled, yet allow commercial
services providers to market and sell their services. I do not think that
there is a risk today, of *too much* encouragement for those few (those
reading this message) who still build applications and sell services with
Apache Flex. We should be as lenient as we can with developers and
providers who are still with us.

>>I would imagine that in the end you will want to use "Flex" somewhere in
the domain name and this disclaimer will be required.  However, I'm not
sure it will be sufficient to allow you to use "apache" in the >>domain
name.  Another issue is, if someone else wants to start their own site of
examples, they don't have a level playing field as the apacheflexexamples
domain name just sounds more "official" and will look >>more official in
search results.  ...

This ^^ provides the specific example of what *not* to do - > ...an
"abusive example" that Erik described above. When the domain name appears
to be "official" and someone is likely to be fooled, then the domain name
should not be used. "JoeFlash.com", "JoeFlex.org", Apache-Joe-Flex.com",
"Flextras.biz", even "Apache-Flex-tras.biz" allow the service provider to
use a keyword rich domain name, yet do not  appear to be "official" to me.
These examples are just clever services providers trying to earn a living,
IMO.

If the domain the commercial interest is evaluating has "Apache" + "Flex"
+ ".org" in the URL being registered, the services provider should not
register the domain & pick another domain that is clever, clear, and
unlikely to be confused with what ASF owns.

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