You should allow a lot longer than 30 minutes before calling a vote. Like maybe 72 hours.
Regards, Dave On May 28, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Erik de Bruin wrote: > Let's vote! > > EdB > > > > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote: >> Vote is required according to [1] >> >> [1] http://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#new-mailing-list >> >> On 5/28/13 11:45 AM, "Erik de Bruin" <e...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote: >> >>> Shouldn't everyone be able to subscribe? Or are you saying that but >>> did I miss it... ;-) >>> >>> EdB >>> >>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 8:32 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala >>> <bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Okay, moving to a new thread. >>>> >>>> Do we need a vote for this or is there sufficient consensus in the >>>> community? >>>> >>>> We dont want to lose people because of all the spam that gets generated >>>> by >>>> the JIRA emails. That should be a big priority for us. >>>> >>>> The proposal is: >>>> >>>> 1. Create a list: j...@flex.apache.org. >>>> 2. All JIRA emails generated by >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX will >>>> go to j...@flex.apache.org >>>> 3. No JIRA emails will be sent to dev@flex.apache.org >>>> 4. We add all committers and PMC members to the j...@flex.apache.org >>>> list >>>> 5. When a new committer/PMC member is inducted, we add them to the >>>> j...@flex.apache.org as one of the setup activities. >>>> >>>> Any comments/suggestions? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Om >>>> >>>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Erik de Bruin <e...@ixsoftware.nl> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> +1 on the JIRA on another list, do we need a vote on that, or can we >>>>> just ask INFRA for it? >>>>> >>>>> Maybe this discussion should be in a separate thread, however... >>>>> >>>>> EdB >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski >>>>> <nicho...@spoon.as> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> I would prefer JIRA activity to be on another list. I've heard from >>>>> quite >>>>>> a few people in my User Group that they dropped off dev@ people of >>>>> the >>>>>> noise of JIRA. I think those of us who want to know what is >>>>> committed >>>>>> will subscribe to those (plus, it makes filtering those messages >>>>> into a >>>>>> separate folder easier ;P ) >>>>>> >>>>>> -Nick >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 5/28/13 10:25 AM, "Greg Reddin" <gred...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Greg, do you think donations like these need to have a goal of >>>>> being >>>>>>>>> integrated with Apache Flex or becoming its own project? >>>>> Personally, >>>>>>>>> I'd >>>>>>>>> be ok with Apache Flex being a warehouse of all kinds of >>>>> Flex-related >>>>>>>>> code >>>>>>>>> even if there is no active development for it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There's a couple of things to consider here: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1) The board does not favor "umbrella" projects. Jakarta was an >>>>> umbrella >>>>>>>> project and it contained (at one time) Struts, Tomcat, Commons, >>>>> JMeter, >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> a whole bunch of Java-related projects. It became clear that the >>>>> Jakarta >>>>>>>> community was too fragmented to get consensus so it spun off all >>>>> those >>>>>>>> projects into TLPs. That could easily start to happen here. >>>>>>> That would make sense for Jakarta, especially if there was active >>>>>>> development on all of those pieces. I'm not sure that will be the >>>>> case >>>>>>> here. I think there's a good chance that these application >>>>> frameworks >>>>> may >>>>>>> not have much activity. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For me, incubation was so much work that it seems easier to take >>>>> these >>>>>>> code donations and see if a community forms around it and then spin >>>>> it >>>>> off >>>>>>> than going through the whole >>>>>>> proposal/initial-committers/mentors/infra-setup/graduation process. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2) This mailing list is already too high-traffic to follow. >>>>> Practically, >>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>> could probably already split up the Flex project into multiple >>>>> projects. >>>>>>>> It >>>>>>>> seems to me that folks are starting to gel around different >>>>> efforts, >>>>> like >>>>>>>> getting new releases of the SDK, vs. compilers, etc. It could be >>>>> that >>>>> we >>>>>>>> need to form new PMCs or it could be that we just need to enact >>>>>>>> sub-projects. But we have to be careful with sub-projects to avoid >>>>> point 1 >>>>>>>> above. >>>>>>> What are your thoughts on just having more mailing lists? We toyed >>>>> with >>>>>>> the notion of having all JIRA activity on a different list. I >>>>> haven't >>>>>>> looked at the stats, but Erik and I haven't done much >>>>>>> Falcon/FalconJX/FlexJS work over the last two weeks and I'm not sure >>>>>>> there's been less activity on the dev list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Alex >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Ix Multimedia Software >>>>> >>>>> Jan Luykenstraat 27 >>>>> 3521 VB Utrecht >>>>> >>>>> T. 06-51952295 >>>>> I. www.ixsoftware.nl >>>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ix Multimedia Software >>> >>> Jan Luykenstraat 27 >>> 3521 VB Utrecht >>> >>> T. 06-51952295 >>> I. www.ixsoftware.nl >> > > > > -- > Ix Multimedia Software > > Jan Luykenstraat 27 > 3521 VB Utrecht > > T. 06-51952295 > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
