On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <nicho...@spoon.as>wrote:
> I don't think we need to auto-add committers... Let them add themselves, > incase they either don't want the notices (and view them via RSS direct > from JIRA), or they want to use another email address. It should be a > public list so anybody could join if they want. > > -Nick > > What if no one subscribes to this list? Or what if a few people subscribe and then they all go inactive? The reason we need to auto-add committers is that we want to make sure that a committed set of people are always watching JIRA activity. I dont see a way to do this without adding all committers automatically. It should be easy enough for all email clients to create a per email filter (j...@flex.apache.org) in this case. Thanks, Om > > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 2:32 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala > <bigosma...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > Okay, moving to a new thread. > > > > Do we need a vote for this or is there sufficient consensus in the > > community? > > > > We dont want to lose people because of all the spam that gets generated > by > > the JIRA emails. That should be a big priority for us. > > > > The proposal is: > > > > 1. Create a list: j...@flex.apache.org. > > 2. All JIRA emails generated by > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX will > > go to j...@flex.apache.org > > 3. No JIRA emails will be sent to dev@flex.apache.org > > 4. We add all committers and PMC members to the jira@flex.apache.orglist > > 5. When a new committer/PMC member is inducted, we add them to the > > j...@flex.apache.org as one of the setup activities. > > > > Any comments/suggestions? > > > > Thanks, > > Om > > > > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Erik de Bruin <e...@ixsoftware.nl> > > wrote: > > > > > +1 on the JIRA on another list, do we need a vote on that, or can we > > > just ask INFRA for it? > > > > > > Maybe this discussion should be in a separate thread, however... > > > > > > EdB > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski < > nicho...@spoon.as > > > > > > wrote: > > > > I would prefer JIRA activity to be on another list. I've heard from > > > quite > > > > a few people in my User Group that they dropped off dev@ people of > the > > > > noise of JIRA. I think those of us who want to know what is > committed > > > > will subscribe to those (plus, it makes filtering those messages > into a > > > > separate folder easier ;P ) > > > > > > > > -Nick > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On 5/28/13 10:25 AM, "Greg Reddin" <gred...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> >On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> > > wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> Greg, do you think donations like these need to have a goal of > > being > > > >> >> integrated with Apache Flex or becoming its own project? > > Personally, > > > >> >>I'd > > > >> >> be ok with Apache Flex being a warehouse of all kinds of > > Flex-related > > > >> >>code > > > >> >> even if there is no active development for it. > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >There's a couple of things to consider here: > > > >> > > > > >> >1) The board does not favor "umbrella" projects. Jakarta was an > > > umbrella > > > >> >project and it contained (at one time) Struts, Tomcat, Commons, > > JMeter, > > > >> >and > > > >> >a whole bunch of Java-related projects. It became clear that the > > > Jakarta > > > >> >community was too fragmented to get consensus so it spun off all > > those > > > >> >projects into TLPs. That could easily start to happen here. > > > >> That would make sense for Jakarta, especially if there was active > > > >> development on all of those pieces. I'm not sure that will be the > > case > > > >> here. I think there's a good chance that these application > frameworks > > > may > > > >> not have much activity. > > > >> > > > >> For me, incubation was so much work that it seems easier to take > these > > > >> code donations and see if a community forms around it and then spin > it > > > off > > > >> than going through the whole > > > >> proposal/initial-committers/mentors/infra-setup/graduation process. > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> >2) This mailing list is already too high-traffic to follow. > > > Practically, > > > >> >we > > > >> >could probably already split up the Flex project into multiple > > > projects. > > > >> >It > > > >> >seems to me that folks are starting to gel around different > efforts, > > > like > > > >> >getting new releases of the SDK, vs. compilers, etc. It could be > that > > > we > > > >> >need to form new PMCs or it could be that we just need to enact > > > >> >sub-projects. But we have to be careful with sub-projects to avoid > > > point 1 > > > >> >above. > > > >> What are your thoughts on just having more mailing lists? We toyed > > with > > > >> the notion of having all JIRA activity on a different list. I > haven't > > > >> looked at the stats, but Erik and I haven't done much > > > >> Falcon/FalconJX/FlexJS work over the last two weeks and I'm not sure > > > >> there's been less activity on the dev list. > > > >> > > > >> -Alex > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Ix Multimedia Software > > > > > > Jan Luykenstraat 27 > > > 3521 VB Utrecht > > > > > > T. 06-51952295 > > > I. www.ixsoftware.nl > > > > > >
