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On 5/28/13 11:45 AM, "Erik de Bruin" <e...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:

>Shouldn't everyone be able to subscribe? Or are you saying that but
>did I miss it... ;-)
>
>EdB
>
>On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 8:32 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala
><bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Okay, moving to a new thread.
>>
>> Do we need a vote for this or is there sufficient consensus in the
>> community?
>>
>> We dont want to lose people because of all the spam that gets generated
>>by
>> the JIRA emails.  That should be a big priority for us.
>>
>> The proposal is:
>>
>> 1.  Create a list: j...@flex.apache.org.
>> 2.  All JIRA emails generated by
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX will
>> go to j...@flex.apache.org
>> 3.  No JIRA emails will be sent to dev@flex.apache.org
>> 4.  We add all committers and PMC members to the j...@flex.apache.org
>>list
>> 5.  When a new committer/PMC member is inducted, we add them to the
>> j...@flex.apache.org as one of the setup activities.
>>
>> Any comments/suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Om
>>
>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Erik de Bruin <e...@ixsoftware.nl>
>>wrote:
>>
>>> +1 on the JIRA on another list, do we need a vote on that, or can we
>>> just ask INFRA for it?
>>>
>>> Maybe this discussion should be in a separate thread, however...
>>>
>>> EdB
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski
>>><nicho...@spoon.as>
>>> wrote:
>>> > I would prefer JIRA activity to be on another list.  I've heard from
>>> quite
>>> > a few people in my User Group that they dropped off dev@ people of
>>>the
>>> > noise of JIRA.   I think those of us who want to know what is
>>>committed
>>> > will subscribe to those (plus, it makes filtering those messages
>>>into a
>>> > separate folder easier ;P  )
>>> >
>>> > -Nick
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 5/28/13 10:25 AM, "Greg Reddin" <gred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com>
>>>wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Greg, do you think donations like these need to have a goal of
>>>being
>>> >> >> integrated with Apache Flex or becoming its own project?
>>>Personally,
>>> >> >>I'd
>>> >> >> be ok with Apache Flex being a warehouse of all kinds of
>>>Flex-related
>>> >> >>code
>>> >> >> even if there is no active development for it.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >There's a couple of things to consider here:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >1) The board does not favor "umbrella" projects. Jakarta was an
>>> umbrella
>>> >> >project and it contained (at one time) Struts, Tomcat, Commons,
>>>JMeter,
>>> >> >and
>>> >> >a whole bunch of Java-related projects. It became clear that the
>>> Jakarta
>>> >> >community was too fragmented to get consensus so it spun off all
>>>those
>>> >> >projects into TLPs. That could easily start to happen here.
>>> >> That would make sense for Jakarta, especially if there was active
>>> >> development on all of those pieces.  I'm not sure that will be the
>>>case
>>> >> here.  I think there's a good chance that these application
>>>frameworks
>>> may
>>> >> not have much activity.
>>> >>
>>> >> For me, incubation was so much work that it seems easier to take
>>>these
>>> >> code donations and see if a community forms around it and then spin
>>>it
>>> off
>>> >> than going through the whole
>>> >> proposal/initial-committers/mentors/infra-setup/graduation process.
>>> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >2) This mailing list is already too high-traffic to follow.
>>> Practically,
>>> >> >we
>>> >> >could probably already split up the Flex project into multiple
>>> projects.
>>> >> >It
>>> >> >seems to me that folks are starting to gel around different
>>>efforts,
>>> like
>>> >> >getting new releases of the SDK, vs. compilers, etc. It could be
>>>that
>>> we
>>> >> >need to form new PMCs or it could be that we just need to enact
>>> >> >sub-projects. But we have to be careful with sub-projects to avoid
>>> point 1
>>> >> >above.
>>> >> What are your thoughts on just having more mailing lists?  We toyed
>>>with
>>> >> the notion of having all JIRA activity on a different list.  I
>>>haven't
>>> >> looked at the stats, but Erik and I haven't done much
>>> >> Falcon/FalconJX/FlexJS work over the last two weeks and I'm not sure
>>> >> there's been less activity on the dev list.
>>> >>
>>> >> -Alex
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ix Multimedia Software
>>>
>>> Jan Luykenstraat 27
>>> 3521 VB Utrecht
>>>
>>> T. 06-51952295
>>> I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>>>
>
>
>
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>Ix Multimedia Software
>
>Jan Luykenstraat 27
>3521 VB Utrecht
>
>T. 06-51952295
>I. www.ixsoftware.nl

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