Agreed. Committers are committing, so they want to track the issues they work on anyways, I'm sure. If they hate being kept up to date so much, they can always unsubscribe. This is not a big thing, it's just a mailing list.
EdB On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 8:58 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala <bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski > <nicho...@spoon.as>wrote: > >> I don't think we need to auto-add committers... Let them add themselves, >> incase they either don't want the notices (and view them via RSS direct >> from JIRA), or they want to use another email address. It should be a >> public list so anybody could join if they want. >> >> -Nick >> >> > What if no one subscribes to this list? Or what if a few people subscribe > and then they all go inactive? > The reason we need to auto-add committers is that we want to make sure that > a committed set of people are always watching JIRA activity. I dont see a > way to do this without adding all committers automatically. > > It should be easy enough for all email clients to create a per email filter > (j...@flex.apache.org) in this case. > > Thanks, > Om > > > >> >> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 2:32 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala >> <bigosma...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >> > Okay, moving to a new thread. >> > >> > Do we need a vote for this or is there sufficient consensus in the >> > community? >> > >> > We dont want to lose people because of all the spam that gets generated >> by >> > the JIRA emails. That should be a big priority for us. >> > >> > The proposal is: >> > >> > 1. Create a list: j...@flex.apache.org. >> > 2. All JIRA emails generated by >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX will >> > go to j...@flex.apache.org >> > 3. No JIRA emails will be sent to dev@flex.apache.org >> > 4. We add all committers and PMC members to the jira@flex.apache.orglist >> > 5. When a new committer/PMC member is inducted, we add them to the >> > j...@flex.apache.org as one of the setup activities. >> > >> > Any comments/suggestions? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Om >> > >> > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Erik de Bruin <e...@ixsoftware.nl> >> > wrote: >> > >> > > +1 on the JIRA on another list, do we need a vote on that, or can we >> > > just ask INFRA for it? >> > > >> > > Maybe this discussion should be in a separate thread, however... >> > > >> > > EdB >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski < >> nicho...@spoon.as >> > > >> > > wrote: >> > > > I would prefer JIRA activity to be on another list. I've heard from >> > > quite >> > > > a few people in my User Group that they dropped off dev@ people of >> the >> > > > noise of JIRA. I think those of us who want to know what is >> committed >> > > > will subscribe to those (plus, it makes filtering those messages >> into a >> > > > separate folder easier ;P ) >> > > > >> > > > -Nick >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> >> wrote: >> > > > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> On 5/28/13 10:25 AM, "Greg Reddin" <gred...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > >> >> > > >> >On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> >> > wrote: >> > > >> > >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> Greg, do you think donations like these need to have a goal of >> > being >> > > >> >> integrated with Apache Flex or becoming its own project? >> > Personally, >> > > >> >>I'd >> > > >> >> be ok with Apache Flex being a warehouse of all kinds of >> > Flex-related >> > > >> >>code >> > > >> >> even if there is no active development for it. >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> >There's a couple of things to consider here: >> > > >> > >> > > >> >1) The board does not favor "umbrella" projects. Jakarta was an >> > > umbrella >> > > >> >project and it contained (at one time) Struts, Tomcat, Commons, >> > JMeter, >> > > >> >and >> > > >> >a whole bunch of Java-related projects. It became clear that the >> > > Jakarta >> > > >> >community was too fragmented to get consensus so it spun off all >> > those >> > > >> >projects into TLPs. That could easily start to happen here. >> > > >> That would make sense for Jakarta, especially if there was active >> > > >> development on all of those pieces. I'm not sure that will be the >> > case >> > > >> here. I think there's a good chance that these application >> frameworks >> > > may >> > > >> not have much activity. >> > > >> >> > > >> For me, incubation was so much work that it seems easier to take >> these >> > > >> code donations and see if a community forms around it and then spin >> it >> > > off >> > > >> than going through the whole >> > > >> proposal/initial-committers/mentors/infra-setup/graduation process. >> > > >> >> > > >> > >> > > >> >2) This mailing list is already too high-traffic to follow. >> > > Practically, >> > > >> >we >> > > >> >could probably already split up the Flex project into multiple >> > > projects. >> > > >> >It >> > > >> >seems to me that folks are starting to gel around different >> efforts, >> > > like >> > > >> >getting new releases of the SDK, vs. compilers, etc. It could be >> that >> > > we >> > > >> >need to form new PMCs or it could be that we just need to enact >> > > >> >sub-projects. But we have to be careful with sub-projects to avoid >> > > point 1 >> > > >> >above. >> > > >> What are your thoughts on just having more mailing lists? We toyed >> > with >> > > >> the notion of having all JIRA activity on a different list. I >> haven't >> > > >> looked at the stats, but Erik and I haven't done much >> > > >> Falcon/FalconJX/FlexJS work over the last two weeks and I'm not sure >> > > >> there's been less activity on the dev list. >> > > >> >> > > >> -Alex >> > > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Ix Multimedia Software >> > > >> > > Jan Luykenstraat 27 >> > > 3521 VB Utrecht >> > > >> > > T. 06-51952295 >> > > I. www.ixsoftware.nl >> > > >> > >> -- Ix Multimedia Software Jan Luykenstraat 27 3521 VB Utrecht T. 06-51952295 I. www.ixsoftware.nl
