On 6/3/16, 2:00 PM, "dev on behalf of Wiles, Keith" <dev-bounces at dpdk.org on 
behalf of keith.wiles at intel.com> wrote:

>On 6/3/16, 1:52 PM, "Arnon Warshavsky" <arnon at qwilt.com<mailto:arnon at 
>qwilt.com>> wrote:
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>On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 9:38 PM, Neil Horman <nhorman at 
>tuxdriver.com<mailto:nhorman at tuxdriver.com>> wrote:
>On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 06:29:13PM +0000, Wiles, Keith wrote:
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>> On 6/3/16, 12:44 PM, "Neil Horman" <nhorman at tuxdriver.com<mailto:nhorman 
>> at tuxdriver.com>> wrote:
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>> >On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 04:04:14PM +0000, Wiles, Keith wrote:
>> >> Sorry, I deleted all of the text as it was getting a bit long.
>> >>
>> >> Here are my thoughts as of now, which is a combination of many 
>> >> suggestions I read from everyone?s emails. I hope this is not too hard to 
>> >> understand.
>> >>
>> >> - Break out the current command line options out of the DPDK common code 
>> >> and move into a new lib.
>> >>   - At this point I was thinking of keeping the rte_eal_init(args, argv) 
>> >> API and just have it pass the args/argv to the new lib to create the data 
>> >> storage.
>> >>      - Maybe move the rte_eal_init() API to the new lib or keep it in the 
>> >> common eal code. Do not want to go hog wild.
>> >>   - The rte_eal_init(args, argv) would then call to the new API 
>> >> rte_eal_initialize(void), which in turn queries the data storage. (still 
>> >> thinking here)
>> >These three items seem to be the exact opposite of my suggestion.  The 
>> >point of
>> >this change was to segregate the parsing of configuration away from the
>> >initalization dpdk using that configurtion.  By keeping rte_eal_init in 
>> >such a
>> >way that the command line is directly passed into it, you've not changed 
>> >that
>> >implicit binding to command line options.
>>
>> Neil,
>>
>> You maybe reading the above wrong or I wrote it wrong, which is a high 
>> possibility. I want to move the command line parsing out of DPDK an into a 
>> library, but I still believe I need to provide some backward compatibility 
>> for ABI and to reduce the learning curve. The current applications can still 
>> call the rte_eal_init(), which then calls the new lib parser for dpdk 
>> command line options and then calls rte_eal_initialize() or move to the new 
>> API rte_eal_initialize() preceded by a new library call to parse the old 
>> command line args. At some point we can deprecate the rte_eal_init() if we 
>> think it is reasonable.
>>
>> >
>> >I can understand if you want to keep rte_eal_init as is for ABI purposes, 
>> >but
>> >then you should create an rte_eal_init2(foo), where foo is some handle to in
>> >memory parsed configuration, so that applications can preform that 
>> >separation.
>>
>> I think you describe what I had planned here. The rte_eal_initialize() 
>> routine is the new rte_eal_init2() API and the rte_eal_init() was only for 
>> backward compatibility was my thinking. I figured the argument to 
>> rte_eal_initialize() would be something to be decided, but it will mostly 
>> likely be some type of pointer to the storage.
>>
>> I hope that clears that up, but let me know.
>>
>yes, that clarifies your thinking, and I agree with it.  Thank you!
>Neil
>
>> ++Keith
>>
>> >
>> >Neil
>> >
>> >>   - The example apps args needs to be passed to the examples as is for 
>> >> now, then we can convert them one at a time if needed.
>> >>
>> >> - I would like to keep the storage of the data separate from the file 
>> >> parser as they can use the ?set? routines to build the data storage up.
>> >>   - Keeping them split allows for new parsers to be created, while 
>> >> keeping the data storage from changing.
>> >> - The rte_cfg code could be modified to use the new configuration if 
>> >> someone wants to take on that task ?
>> >>
>> >> - Next is the data storage and how we can access the data in a clean 
>> >> simple way.
>> >> - I want to have some simple level of hierarchy in the data.
>> >>   - Having a string containing at least two levels ?primary:secondary?.
>> >>      - Primary string is something like ?EAL? or ?Pktgen? or ?testpmd? to 
>> >> divide the data storage into logical major groups.
>> >>         - The primary allows us to have groups and then we can have 
>> >> common secondary strings in different groups if needed.
>> >>      - Secondary string can be whatever the developer of that group would 
>> >> like e.g. simple ?EAL:foobar?, two levels ?testpmd:foo.bar?
>> >>
>> >>   - The secondary string is treated as a single string if it has a 
>> >> hierarchy or not, but referencing a single value in the data storage.
>> >>      - Key value pairs (KVP) or a hashmap data store.
>> >>         - The key here is the whole string ?EAL:foobar? not just ?foobar? 
>> >> secondary string.
>> >>            - If we want to have the two split I am ok with that as well 
>> >> meaning the API would be:
>> >>              rte_map_get(mapObj, ?EAL?, ?foo.bar?);
>> >>              rte_map_set(mapObj, ?EAL?, ?foo.bar?, value);
>> >>            - Have the primary as a different section in the data store, 
>> >> would allow for dumping that section maybe easier, not sure.
>> >>               - I am leaning toward
>> >>      - Not going to try splitting up the string or parse it as it is up 
>> >> to the developer to make it unique in the data store.
>> >> - Use a code design to make the strings simple to use without having 
>> >> typos be a problem.
>> >>    - Not sure what the design is yet, but I do not want to have to concat 
>> >> two string or split strings in the code.
>> >>
>> >> This is as far as I have gotten and got tired of typing ?
>> >>
>> >> I hope this will satisfy most everyone?s needs for now.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Keith
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
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>Keith
>What about the data types of the values?
>I would assume that as a library it can provide the service of typed get/set 
>and not leave conversion and validation to the app.
>
>rte_map_get_int(map,section,key)
>rte_map_get_double(...)
>rte_map_get_string(...)
>rte_map_get_bytes(...,destBuff , destBuffSize) //e.g byte array of RSS key
>This may also allow some basic validity of the configuration file
>Another point I forgot about is default values.
>We sometimes use a notation where the app also specifies a default value in 
>case the configuration did not specify it
>  rte_map_get_int(map,section,key , defaultValue )
>and specify if this was a mandatory that has no default
>  rte_map_get_int_crash_if_missing (map,section,key)
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>/Arnon
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>Arnon,
>
>Yes, I too was thinking about access type APIs, but had not come to a full 
>conclusion yet. As long as the API for get/put can return any value, we can 
>add a layer on top of these primary get/put APIs to do some basic type 
>checking. This way the developer can add his/her own type checking APIs or we 
>provide a couple basic types for simple values.

One more thing. I had not thought about default values as the defaults are 
handle directly by the code when an option is not applied. I think it should be 
left up to the developer to add default values to the storage or handle it when 
an option is not found in the storage.

If I understand your code above the API would pass in a default value if one 
did not exist in the storage, which I guess is reasonable. Anyone think this is 
a good idea or not?

>
>Does that make sense?
>
>++Keith
>



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