On 10/10/2024 5:23 PM, Dariusz Sosnowski wrote:
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>> Cc: dev@dpdk.org; Bruce Richardson <bruce.richard...@intel.com>
>> Subject: Re: [RFC 0/4] ethdev: rework config restore
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>> On 10/10/2024 1:08 PM, Dariusz Sosnowski wrote:
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yi...@amd.com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2024 01:17
>>>> To: Dariusz Sosnowski <dsosnow...@nvidia.com>; Konstantin Ananyev
>>>> <konstantin.anan...@huawei.com>; NBU-Contact-Thomas Monjalon
>>>> (EXTERNAL) <tho...@monjalon.net>; Andrew Rybchenko
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>>>> Cc: dev@dpdk.org; Bruce Richardson <bruce.richard...@intel.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [RFC 0/4] ethdev: rework config restore
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>>>> On 10/9/2024 5:18 PM, Dariusz Sosnowski wrote:
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yi...@amd.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2024 03:08
>>>>>> To: Konstantin Ananyev <konstantin.anan...@huawei.com>; Dariusz
>>>>>> Sosnowski <dsosnow...@nvidia.com>; NBU-Contact-Thomas Monjalon
>>>>>> (EXTERNAL) <tho...@monjalon.net>; Andrew Rybchenko
>>>>>> <andrew.rybche...@oktetlabs.ru>
>>>>>> Cc: dev@dpdk.org; Bruce Richardson <bruce.richard...@intel.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RFC 0/4] ethdev: rework config restore
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/8/2024 6:21 PM, Konstantin Ananyev wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We have been working on optimizing the latency of calls to
>>>>>>>>>>>> rte_eth_dev_start(), on ports spawned by mlx5 PMD. Most of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the work requires changes in the implementation of
>>>>>>>>>>>> .dev_start() PMD callback, but I also wanted to start a
>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion regarding configuration restore.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> rte_eth_dev_start() does a few things on top of calling
>>>>>>>>>>>> .dev_start()
>>>>>> callback:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Before calling it:
>>>>>>>>>>>> - eth_dev_mac_restore() - if device supports
>>>>>>>>>>>> RTE_ETH_DEV_NOLIVE_MAC_ADDR;
>>>>>>>>>>>> - After calling it:
>>>>>>>>>>>> - eth_dev_mac_restore() - if device does not support
>>>>>>>>>>> RTE_ETH_DEV_NOLIVE_MAC_ADDR;
>>>>>>>>>>>> - restore promiscuous config
>>>>>>>>>>>> - restore all multicast config
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> eth_dev_mac_restore() iterates over all known MAC addresses -
>>>>>>>>>>>> stored in rte_eth_dev_data.mac_addrs array - and calls
>>>>>>>>>>>> .mac_addr_set() and .mac_addr_add() callbacks to apply these
>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC
>>>>>> addresses.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Promiscuous config restore checks if promiscuous mode is
>>>>>>>>>>>> enabled or not, and calls .promiscuous_enable() or
>>>>>>>>>>>> .promiscuous_disable()
>>>>>> callback.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> All multicast config restore checks if all multicast mode is
>>>>>>>>>>>> enabled or not, and calls .allmulticast_enable() or
>>>>>>>>>>>> .allmulticast_disable()
>>>>>> callback.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Callbacks are called directly in all of these cases, to
>>>>>>>>>>>> bypass the checks for applying the same configuration, which
>>>>>>>>>>>> exist in relevant
>>>>>> APIs.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Checks are bypassed to force drivers to reapply the configuration.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's consider what happens in the following sequence of API calls.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. rte_eth_dev_configure()
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. rte_eth_tx_queue_setup()
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. rte_eth_rx_queue_setup()
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. rte_eth_promiscuous_enable()
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->promiscuous_enable()
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Stores promiscuous state in dev->data->promiscuous 5.
>>>>>>>>>>>> rte_eth_allmulticast_enable()
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->allmulticast_enable()
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Stores allmulticast state in dev->data->allmulticast 6.
>>>>>>>>>>>> rte_eth_dev_start()
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->dev_start()
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->mac_addr_set() - apply default MAC address
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->promiscuous_enable()
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->allmulticast_enable()
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Even though all configuration is available in dev->data after
>>>>>>>>>>>> step 5, library forces reapplying this configuration in step 6.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In mlx5 PMD case all relevant callbacks require communication
>>>>>>>>>>>> with the kernel driver, to configure the device (mlx5 PMD
>>>>>>>>>>>> must create/destroy new kernel flow rules and/or change netdev
>> config).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> mlx5 PMD handles applying all configuration in .dev_start(),
>>>>>>>>>>>> so the following forced callbacks force additional
>>>>>>>>>>>> communication with the kernel. The
>>>>>>>>>>> same configuration is applied multiple times.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> As an optimization, mlx5 PMD could check if a given
>>>>>>>>>>>> configuration was applied, but this would duplicate the
>>>>>>>>>>>> functionality of the library (for example
>>>>>>>>>>>> rte_eth_promiscuous_enable() does not call the driver if
>>>>>>>>>>>> dev->data->promiscuous is set).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Question: Since all of the configuration is available before
>>>>>>>>>>>> .dev_start() callback is called, why ethdev library does not
>>>>>>>>>>>> expect .dev_start() to
>>>>>>>>>>> take this configuration into account?
>>>>>>>>>>>> In other words, why library has to reapply the configuration?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I could not find any particular reason why configuration
>>>>>>>>>>>> restore exists as part of the process (it was in the initial DPDK
>> commit).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> My assumption is .dev_stop() cause these values reset in some
>>>>>>>>>>> devices, so
>>>>>>>>>>> .dev_start() restores them back.
>>>>>>>>>>> @Bruce or @Konstantin may remember the history.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yep, as I remember, at least some Intel PMDs calling hw_reset()
>>>>>>>>> ad
>>>>>>>>> dec_stop() and even dev_start() to make sure that HW is in a
>>>>>>>>> clean
>>>>>>>>> (known)
>>>>>> state.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But I agree this is device specific behavior, and can be
>>>>>>>>>>> managed by what device requires.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Probably yes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The patches included in this RFC, propose a mechanism which
>>>>>>>>>>>> would help with managing which drivers rely on forceful
>>>>>>>>>>>> configuration
>>>> restore.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Drivers could advertise if forceful configuration restore is
>>>>>>>>>>>> needed through `RTE_ETH_DEV_*_FORCE_RESTORE` device flag. If
>>>>>>>>>>>> this flag is set, then the driver in question requires ethdev
>>>>>>>>>>>> to forcefully restore
>>>>>>>>>>> configuration.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> OK to use flag for it, but not sure about using
>>>>>>>>>>> 'dev_info->dev_flags'
>>>>>>>>>>> (RTE_ETH_DEV_*) for this, as this flag is shared with user and
>>>>>>>>>>> this is all dpdk internal.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What about to have a dedicated flag for it? We can have a
>>>>>>>>>>> dedicated set of flag values for restore.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. What do you think about the following?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Instead of exposing that, can we probably make it transparent to
>>>>>>>>> the user and probably ethdev layer too?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +1 to make it transparent to user, but not sure if we can make it
>>>>>>>> transparent to ethdev layer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just to be clear:
>>>>>>> Let say, using example from above:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> rte_eth_dev_start()
>>>>>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->dev_start()
>>>>>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->mac_addr_set() - apply default MAC address
>>>>>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->promiscuous_enable()
>>>>>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->allmulticast_enable()
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We probably can introduce ethdev internal function (still visible
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> PMDs) that would do last 3 steps:
>>>>>>> ethdev_replay_user_conf(...)
>>>>>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->mac_addr_set() - apply default MAC address
>>>>>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->promiscuous_enable()
>>>>>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->allmulticast_enable()
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And let PMD itself to decide does it needs to call it at dev_start() or
>>>>>>> not.
>>>>>>> So it will become:
>>>>>>> rte_eth_dev_start()
>>>>>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->dev_start()
>>>>>>> -Call ethdev_replay_user_conf(.)
>>>>>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->mac_addr_set() - apply default MAC
>>>>>>> address
>>>>>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->promiscuous_enable()
>>>>>>> -Call dev->dev_ops->allmulticast_enable()
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For PMDs that do need to restore user provided config And
>>>>>>> rte_eth_dev_start()
>>>>>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->dev_start()
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For those who do not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK, got it what you mean.
>>>>>> Pushing restore functionality to PMDs works, but this may be doing
>>>>>> redundant work on each PMD.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Instead Dariusz suggests PMD to provide a flag to ehtdev to what to
>>>>>> restore and common code in ethdev does the work.
>>>>>> My below dedicated data struct comment is to have this flag in a
>>>>>> new struct, overall like following:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> rte_eth_dev_start()
>>>>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->dev_start()
>>>>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->get_restore_flags(ethdev, RTE_ETH_START, &flags)
>>>>>> - if (flags & MAC) dev->dev_ops->mac_addr_set()
>>>>>> - if (flags & PROMISC) dev->dev_ops->promiscuous_enable()
>>>>>> - ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you please explain what is the benefit of exposing flags
>>>>> through dev_ops
>>>> callback vs a dedicated flags field in rte_eth_dev_data?
>>>>> In both solutions:
>>>>> - config restore is transparent to the user,
>>>>> - drivers can omit config restore (either by not implementing the
>>>>> callback or not providing the flags),
>>>>> - an ABI change is introduced (not a huge concern, at least for 24.11).
>>>>>
>>>>> I understand that my initial proposal with "internal_flags" was too
>>>>> vague, but renaming and splitting this field into:
>>>>>
>>>>> - dev_start_restore_flags
>>>>> - dev_reset_restore_flags
>>>>> - and so on...
>>>>>
>>>>> seems sufficient, at least in my opinion.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Dariusz,
>>>>
>>>> Putting flags to rte_eth_dev_data works, and it is easier since there
>>>> is direct access from rte_eth_dev to rte_eth_dev_data, so you don't
>>>> need new dev_ops. So this is a valid option.
>>>>
>>>> But benefit of new dev_ops is to keep "struct rte_eth_dev_data" clean.
>>>>
>>>> "struct rte_eth_dev_data" is integral data structure for ethdev and
>>>> it is used in multiple locations, mostly related to the datapath and
>>>> all drivers needs to deal with fields of this struct.
>>>> Like [rx]_queues, dev_private, dev_conf all important and used a lot.
>>>>
>>>> I want to protect "struct rte_eth_dev_data" from noise as much as
>>>> possible, though what is noise is not always that clear.
>>>>
>>>> This restore flag is not critical, and I expect most of the drivers
>>>> won't care and populate this restore flag at all. That is why to me
>>>> it is better have dedicated struct for it and only drivers care about
>>>> restore
>> feature know it.
>>>
>>> I see. Thank you very much for the explanation.
>>>
>>> In this case, it looks like adding this to dev_ops is the way to go.
>>>
>>> So, summarizing it all:
>>>
>>> 1. dev_ops should be extended with a callback with the following signature
>>> and
>> enums/flags:
>>>
>>> enum rte_eth_dev_operation op {
>>> RTE_ETH_START,
>>> RTE_ETH_STOP,
>>> RTE_ETH_RESET,
>>> };
>>>
>>> #define RTE_ETH_RESTORE_MAC_ADDR RTE_BIT32(0) #define
>>> RTE_ETH_RESTORE_PROMISC RTE_BIT32(1) #define
>> RTE_ETH_RESTORE_ALLMULTI
>>> RTE_BIT32(2)
>>>
>>> void (*get_restore_flags)(
>>> struct rte_eth_dev *dev,
>>> enum rte_eth_dev_operation op,
>>> uint32_t *flags);
>>>
>>> 2. rte_eth_dev_start() will work as follows:
>>>
>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->dev_start()
>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->get_restore_flags(dev, RTE_ETH_START, &flags). If
>>> callback
>> is not provided, assume flags == 0.
>>> - if (flags & RTE_ETH_RESTORE_MAC_ADDR) - restore MAC addresses
>>> - and so on...
>>>
>>
>> All above looks good.
>>
>>> Also, I would like to add the following:
>>>
>>> 3. Patchset introducing this change should add get_restore_flags()
>> implementation to all drivers, which informs that all config should be
>> restored.
>>> This would preserve the current behavior.
>>> Later, this could be refined driver by driver.
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>
>> What you are saying is correct, but I suspect most of the drivers don't
>> really need
>> this restore, but they have it since it was in the ethdev layer.
>>
>> If we introduce back restore via get_restore_flags(), it may stay as it is
>> in drivers, at
>> least for most of them.
>>
>> What do you think to risk breaking stuff for this case.
>>
>> So don't implement this in the drivers by default, so who needs it will
>> recognize
>> the issue and will implement it. If we merge this patch for -rc1, it gives
>> enough
>> time for drivers to detect the issue and fix it.
>
> It seems rather too risky, especially considering that for example, there are
> a few Intel drivers which do not have maintainers (like i40e).
> So, I don't know what will happen to such drivers. They may be left broken
> (if they are affected) for 24.11 and future releases.
> But I agree that if default behavior is preserved, this dependence of drivers
> on config restore might stay as is.
> I'm on the fence about it.
>
Yeah, not sure.
Do you think the dev_ops function can be implemented in the
'ethdev_driver.c' and all drivers use exact same function?
So this reduces changes and duplication in drivers while preserving the
behavior.
>>
>> Only we may implement this to the drivers that exist when this restore code
>> was
>> introduced.
>> I mean whatever driver exist in the initial DPDK commit, implement this
>> logic only
>> to those drivers.
>
> Seems reasonable to me. In this case, it would be igb (IIUC, now it's named
> e1000) and ixgbe.
>
>>
>>> Also, there's an open question about 'stop' and 'reset' operations.
>>> At the moment, ethdev layer does not do any config manipulation during these
>> operations.
>>> Maybe we should limit get_restore_flags() to 'start' only?
>>>
>>
>> Ack, I was about to suggest the same, for now only have 'RTE_ETH_START'
>> as a placeholder for later possible usages.
>
> Ack
>
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So PMDs only will provide what to restore with an internal API and
>>>>>> common ethdev layer will restore it.
>>>>>> If no restore required PMD may not implement .get_restore_flags() at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Additionally, RTE_ETH_START, RTE_ETH_RESET etc flag can be provided
>>>>>> to internal API to get what to restore in different states...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Suggested 'internal_flag' in "struct rte_eth_dev_data" can be
>>>>>>>> confusing and open to interpretation what to use it for and by
>>>>>>>> time become source of defect.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, same thoughts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Instead what do you think to have a separate, dedicated data struct
>>>>>>>> for it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmm... not sure I understood you here...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Might be we can move this restoration code into the new ethdev
>>>>>>>>> helper function,(ethdevd_user_config_restore() or so) that PMD
>>>>>>>>> can invoke
>>>>>> during its dev_start() if needed?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> #define RTE_ETH_DEV_INTERNAL_PROMISC_FORCE_RESTORE
>>>> RTE_BIT32(0)
>>>>>>>>>> #define RTE_ETH_DEV_INTERNAL_ALLMULTI_FORCE_RESTORE
>>>> RTE_BIT32(1)
>>>>>>>>>> #define RTE_ETH_DEV_INTERNAL_MAC_ADDR_FORCE_RESTORE
>>>>>> RTE_BIT32(2)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> struct rte_eth_dev_data {
>>>>>>>>>> /* snip */
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> uint32_t dev_flags;
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> /**
>>>>>>>>>> * Internal device capabilities, used only by ethdev library.
>>>>>>>>>> * Certain functionalities provided by the library might
>>>> enabled/disabled,
>>>>>>>>>> * based on driver exposing certain capabilities.
>>>>>>>>>> */
>>>>>>>>>> uint32_t internal_flags;
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> /* snip */
>>>>>>>>>> };
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Also perhaps we have go into details what needs to be restored
>>>>>>>>>>> after 'stop' and what needs to be restored after 'reset' and
>>>>>>>>>>> use similar
>>>>>> mechanism etc...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think we should look into that.
>>>>>>>>>> Any 'codification' of semantics between drivers and ethdev
>>>>>>>>>> library is good in
>>>>>> my opinion.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> At least right now, ethdev does not change any configuration in
>>>>>>>>>> 'stop' and
>>>>>> 'reset' from what I see.
>>>>>>>>>> But that's on library side only.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This way, if we would conclude that it makes sense for
>>>>>>>>>>>> .dev_start() to handle all starting configuration aspects, we
>>>>>>>>>>>> could track which drivers still rely
>>>>>>>>>>> on configuration restore.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dariusz Sosnowski (4):
>>>>>>>>>>>> ethdev: rework config restore
>>>>>>>>>>>> ethdev: omit promiscuous config restore if not required
>>>>>>>>>>>> ethdev: omit all multicast config restore if not required
>>>>>>>>>>>> ethdev: omit MAC address restore if not required
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> lib/ethdev/rte_ethdev.c | 39
>>>>>>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> lib/ethdev/rte_ethdev.h | 18 ++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 files changed, 52 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.39.5
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>
