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> From: Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yi...@amd.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2024 14:52
> To: Dariusz Sosnowski <dsosnow...@nvidia.com>; Konstantin Ananyev
> <konstantin.anan...@huawei.com>; NBU-Contact-Thomas Monjalon (EXTERNAL)
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> Cc: dev@dpdk.org; Bruce Richardson <bruce.richard...@intel.com>
> Subject: Re: [RFC 0/4] ethdev: rework config restore
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> On 10/10/2024 1:08 PM, Dariusz Sosnowski wrote:
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yi...@amd.com>
> >> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2024 01:17
> >> To: Dariusz Sosnowski <dsosnow...@nvidia.com>; Konstantin Ananyev
> >> <konstantin.anan...@huawei.com>; NBU-Contact-Thomas Monjalon
> >> (EXTERNAL) <tho...@monjalon.net>; Andrew Rybchenko
> >> <andrew.rybche...@oktetlabs.ru>
> >> Cc: dev@dpdk.org; Bruce Richardson <bruce.richard...@intel.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [RFC 0/4] ethdev: rework config restore
> >>
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> >> On 10/9/2024 5:18 PM, Dariusz Sosnowski wrote:
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yi...@amd.com>
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2024 03:08
> >>>> To: Konstantin Ananyev <konstantin.anan...@huawei.com>; Dariusz
> >>>> Sosnowski <dsosnow...@nvidia.com>; NBU-Contact-Thomas Monjalon
> >>>> (EXTERNAL) <tho...@monjalon.net>; Andrew Rybchenko
> >>>> <andrew.rybche...@oktetlabs.ru>
> >>>> Cc: dev@dpdk.org; Bruce Richardson <bruce.richard...@intel.com>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [RFC 0/4] ethdev: rework config restore
> >>>>
> >>>> External email: Use caution opening links or attachments
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 10/8/2024 6:21 PM, Konstantin Ananyev wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> We have been working on optimizing the latency of calls to
> >>>>>>>>>> rte_eth_dev_start(), on ports spawned by mlx5 PMD. Most of
> >>>>>>>>>> the work requires changes in the implementation of
> >>>>>>>>>> .dev_start() PMD callback, but I also wanted to start a
> >>>>>>>>>> discussion regarding configuration restore.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> rte_eth_dev_start() does a few things on top of calling
> >>>>>>>>>> .dev_start()
> >>>> callback:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> - Before calling it:
> >>>>>>>>>> - eth_dev_mac_restore() - if device supports
> >>>>>>>>>> RTE_ETH_DEV_NOLIVE_MAC_ADDR;
> >>>>>>>>>> - After calling it:
> >>>>>>>>>> - eth_dev_mac_restore() - if device does not support
> >>>>>>>>> RTE_ETH_DEV_NOLIVE_MAC_ADDR;
> >>>>>>>>>> - restore promiscuous config
> >>>>>>>>>> - restore all multicast config
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> eth_dev_mac_restore() iterates over all known MAC addresses -
> >>>>>>>>>> stored in rte_eth_dev_data.mac_addrs array - and calls
> >>>>>>>>>> .mac_addr_set() and .mac_addr_add() callbacks to apply these
> >>>>>>>>>> MAC
> >>>> addresses.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Promiscuous config restore checks if promiscuous mode is
> >>>>>>>>>> enabled or not, and calls .promiscuous_enable() or
> >>>>>>>>>> .promiscuous_disable()
> >>>> callback.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> All multicast config restore checks if all multicast mode is
> >>>>>>>>>> enabled or not, and calls .allmulticast_enable() or
> >>>>>>>>>> .allmulticast_disable()
> >>>> callback.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Callbacks are called directly in all of these cases, to
> >>>>>>>>>> bypass the checks for applying the same configuration, which
> >>>>>>>>>> exist in relevant
> >>>> APIs.
> >>>>>>>>>> Checks are bypassed to force drivers to reapply the configuration.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Let's consider what happens in the following sequence of API calls.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 1. rte_eth_dev_configure()
> >>>>>>>>>> 2. rte_eth_tx_queue_setup()
> >>>>>>>>>> 3. rte_eth_rx_queue_setup()
> >>>>>>>>>> 4. rte_eth_promiscuous_enable()
> >>>>>>>>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->promiscuous_enable()
> >>>>>>>>>> - Stores promiscuous state in dev->data->promiscuous 5.
> >>>>>>>>>> rte_eth_allmulticast_enable()
> >>>>>>>>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->allmulticast_enable()
> >>>>>>>>>> - Stores allmulticast state in dev->data->allmulticast 6.
> >>>>>>>>>> rte_eth_dev_start()
> >>>>>>>>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->dev_start()
> >>>>>>>>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->mac_addr_set() - apply default MAC address
> >>>>>>>>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->promiscuous_enable()
> >>>>>>>>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->allmulticast_enable()
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Even though all configuration is available in dev->data after
> >>>>>>>>>> step 5, library forces reapplying this configuration in step 6.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> In mlx5 PMD case all relevant callbacks require communication
> >>>>>>>>>> with the kernel driver, to configure the device (mlx5 PMD
> >>>>>>>>>> must create/destroy new kernel flow rules and/or change netdev
> config).
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> mlx5 PMD handles applying all configuration in .dev_start(),
> >>>>>>>>>> so the following forced callbacks force additional
> >>>>>>>>>> communication with the kernel. The
> >>>>>>>>> same configuration is applied multiple times.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> As an optimization, mlx5 PMD could check if a given
> >>>>>>>>>> configuration was applied, but this would duplicate the
> >>>>>>>>>> functionality of the library (for example
> >>>>>>>>>> rte_eth_promiscuous_enable() does not call the driver if
> >>>>>>>>>> dev->data->promiscuous is set).
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Question: Since all of the configuration is available before
> >>>>>>>>>> .dev_start() callback is called, why ethdev library does not
> >>>>>>>>>> expect .dev_start() to
> >>>>>>>>> take this configuration into account?
> >>>>>>>>>> In other words, why library has to reapply the configuration?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I could not find any particular reason why configuration
> >>>>>>>>>> restore exists as part of the process (it was in the initial DPDK
> commit).
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> My assumption is .dev_stop() cause these values reset in some
> >>>>>>>>> devices, so
> >>>>>>>>> .dev_start() restores them back.
> >>>>>>>>> @Bruce or @Konstantin may remember the history.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yep, as I remember, at least some Intel PMDs calling hw_reset()
> >>>>>>> ad
> >>>>>>> dec_stop() and even dev_start() to make sure that HW is in a
> >>>>>>> clean
> >>>>>>> (known)
> >>>> state.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> But I agree this is device specific behavior, and can be
> >>>>>>>>> managed by what device requires.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Probably yes.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The patches included in this RFC, propose a mechanism which
> >>>>>>>>>> would help with managing which drivers rely on forceful
> >>>>>>>>>> configuration
> >> restore.
> >>>>>>>>>> Drivers could advertise if forceful configuration restore is
> >>>>>>>>>> needed through `RTE_ETH_DEV_*_FORCE_RESTORE` device flag. If
> >>>>>>>>>> this flag is set, then the driver in question requires ethdev
> >>>>>>>>>> to forcefully restore
> >>>>>>>>> configuration.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> OK to use flag for it, but not sure about using
> >>>>>>>>> 'dev_info->dev_flags'
> >>>>>>>>> (RTE_ETH_DEV_*) for this, as this flag is shared with user and
> >>>>>>>>> this is all dpdk internal.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> What about to have a dedicated flag for it? We can have a
> >>>>>>>>> dedicated set of flag values for restore.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Agreed. What do you think about the following?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Instead of exposing that, can we probably make it transparent to
> >>>>>>> the user and probably ethdev layer too?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> +1 to make it transparent to user, but not sure if we can make it
> >>>>>> transparent to ethdev layer.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Just to be clear:
> >>>>> Let say, using example from above:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> rte_eth_dev_start()
> >>>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->dev_start()
> >>>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->mac_addr_set() - apply default MAC address
> >>>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->promiscuous_enable()
> >>>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->allmulticast_enable()
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We probably can introduce ethdev internal function (still visible
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> PMDs) that would do last 3 steps:
> >>>>> ethdev_replay_user_conf(...)
> >>>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->mac_addr_set() - apply default MAC address
> >>>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->promiscuous_enable()
> >>>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->allmulticast_enable()
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And let PMD itself to decide does it needs to call it at dev_start() or
> >>>>> not.
> >>>>> So it will become:
> >>>>> rte_eth_dev_start()
> >>>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->dev_start()
> >>>>> -Call ethdev_replay_user_conf(.)
> >>>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->mac_addr_set() - apply default MAC
> >>>>> address
> >>>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->promiscuous_enable()
> >>>>> -Call dev->dev_ops->allmulticast_enable()
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For PMDs that do need to restore user provided config And
> >>>>> rte_eth_dev_start()
> >>>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->dev_start()
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For those who do not.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> OK, got it what you mean.
> >>>> Pushing restore functionality to PMDs works, but this may be doing
> >>>> redundant work on each PMD.
> >>>>
> >>>> Instead Dariusz suggests PMD to provide a flag to ehtdev to what to
> >>>> restore and common code in ethdev does the work.
> >>>> My below dedicated data struct comment is to have this flag in a
> >>>> new struct, overall like following:
> >>>>
> >>>> rte_eth_dev_start()
> >>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->dev_start()
> >>>> - Call dev->dev_ops->get_restore_flags(ethdev, RTE_ETH_START, &flags)
> >>>> - if (flags & MAC) dev->dev_ops->mac_addr_set()
> >>>> - if (flags & PROMISC) dev->dev_ops->promiscuous_enable()
> >>>> - ...
> >>>
> >>> Could you please explain what is the benefit of exposing flags
> >>> through dev_ops
> >> callback vs a dedicated flags field in rte_eth_dev_data?
> >>> In both solutions:
> >>> - config restore is transparent to the user,
> >>> - drivers can omit config restore (either by not implementing the
> >>> callback or not providing the flags),
> >>> - an ABI change is introduced (not a huge concern, at least for 24.11).
> >>>
> >>> I understand that my initial proposal with "internal_flags" was too
> >>> vague, but renaming and splitting this field into:
> >>>
> >>> - dev_start_restore_flags
> >>> - dev_reset_restore_flags
> >>> - and so on...
> >>>
> >>> seems sufficient, at least in my opinion.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Hi Dariusz,
> >>
> >> Putting flags to rte_eth_dev_data works, and it is easier since there
> >> is direct access from rte_eth_dev to rte_eth_dev_data, so you don't
> >> need new dev_ops. So this is a valid option.
> >>
> >> But benefit of new dev_ops is to keep "struct rte_eth_dev_data" clean.
> >>
> >> "struct rte_eth_dev_data" is integral data structure for ethdev and
> >> it is used in multiple locations, mostly related to the datapath and
> >> all drivers needs to deal with fields of this struct.
> >> Like [rx]_queues, dev_private, dev_conf all important and used a lot.
> >>
> >> I want to protect "struct rte_eth_dev_data" from noise as much as
> >> possible, though what is noise is not always that clear.
> >>
> >> This restore flag is not critical, and I expect most of the drivers
> >> won't care and populate this restore flag at all. That is why to me
> >> it is better have dedicated struct for it and only drivers care about
> >> restore
> feature know it.
> >
> > I see. Thank you very much for the explanation.
> >
> > In this case, it looks like adding this to dev_ops is the way to go.
> >
> > So, summarizing it all:
> >
> > 1. dev_ops should be extended with a callback with the following signature
> > and
> enums/flags:
> >
> > enum rte_eth_dev_operation op {
> > RTE_ETH_START,
> > RTE_ETH_STOP,
> > RTE_ETH_RESET,
> > };
> >
> > #define RTE_ETH_RESTORE_MAC_ADDR RTE_BIT32(0) #define
> > RTE_ETH_RESTORE_PROMISC RTE_BIT32(1) #define
> RTE_ETH_RESTORE_ALLMULTI
> > RTE_BIT32(2)
> >
> > void (*get_restore_flags)(
> > struct rte_eth_dev *dev,
> > enum rte_eth_dev_operation op,
> > uint32_t *flags);
> >
> > 2. rte_eth_dev_start() will work as follows:
> >
> > - Call dev->dev_ops->dev_start()
> > - Call dev->dev_ops->get_restore_flags(dev, RTE_ETH_START, &flags). If
> > callback
> is not provided, assume flags == 0.
> > - if (flags & RTE_ETH_RESTORE_MAC_ADDR) - restore MAC addresses
> > - and so on...
> >
>
> All above looks good.
>
> > Also, I would like to add the following:
> >
> > 3. Patchset introducing this change should add get_restore_flags()
> implementation to all drivers, which informs that all config should be
> restored.
> > This would preserve the current behavior.
> > Later, this could be refined driver by driver.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
>
> What you are saying is correct, but I suspect most of the drivers don't
> really need
> this restore, but they have it since it was in the ethdev layer.
>
> If we introduce back restore via get_restore_flags(), it may stay as it is in
> drivers, at
> least for most of them.
>
> What do you think to risk breaking stuff for this case.
>
> So don't implement this in the drivers by default, so who needs it will
> recognize
> the issue and will implement it. If we merge this patch for -rc1, it gives
> enough
> time for drivers to detect the issue and fix it.
It seems rather too risky, especially considering that for example, there are a
few Intel drivers which do not have maintainers (like i40e).
So, I don't know what will happen to such drivers. They may be left broken (if
they are affected) for 24.11 and future releases.
But I agree that if default behavior is preserved, this dependence of drivers
on config restore might stay as is.
I'm on the fence about it.
>
> Only we may implement this to the drivers that exist when this restore code
> was
> introduced.
> I mean whatever driver exist in the initial DPDK commit, implement this logic
> only
> to those drivers.
Seems reasonable to me. In this case, it would be igb (IIUC, now it's named
e1000) and ixgbe.
>
> > Also, there's an open question about 'stop' and 'reset' operations.
> > At the moment, ethdev layer does not do any config manipulation during these
> operations.
> > Maybe we should limit get_restore_flags() to 'start' only?
> >
>
> Ack, I was about to suggest the same, for now only have 'RTE_ETH_START'
> as a placeholder for later possible usages.
Ack
>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>> So PMDs only will provide what to restore with an internal API and
> >>>> common ethdev layer will restore it.
> >>>> If no restore required PMD may not implement .get_restore_flags() at all.
> >>>>
> >>>> Additionally, RTE_ETH_START, RTE_ETH_RESET etc flag can be provided
> >>>> to internal API to get what to restore in different states...
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Suggested 'internal_flag' in "struct rte_eth_dev_data" can be
> >>>>>> confusing and open to interpretation what to use it for and by
> >>>>>> time become source of defect.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yes, same thoughts.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Instead what do you think to have a separate, dedicated data struct
> >>>>>> for it?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hmm... not sure I understood you here...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Might be we can move this restoration code into the new ethdev
> >>>>>>> helper function,(ethdevd_user_config_restore() or so) that PMD
> >>>>>>> can invoke
> >>>> during its dev_start() if needed?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> #define RTE_ETH_DEV_INTERNAL_PROMISC_FORCE_RESTORE
> >> RTE_BIT32(0)
> >>>>>>>> #define RTE_ETH_DEV_INTERNAL_ALLMULTI_FORCE_RESTORE
> >> RTE_BIT32(1)
> >>>>>>>> #define RTE_ETH_DEV_INTERNAL_MAC_ADDR_FORCE_RESTORE
> >>>> RTE_BIT32(2)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> struct rte_eth_dev_data {
> >>>>>>>> /* snip */
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> uint32_t dev_flags;
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> /**
> >>>>>>>> * Internal device capabilities, used only by ethdev library.
> >>>>>>>> * Certain functionalities provided by the library might
> >> enabled/disabled,
> >>>>>>>> * based on driver exposing certain capabilities.
> >>>>>>>> */
> >>>>>>>> uint32_t internal_flags;
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> /* snip */
> >>>>>>>> };
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Also perhaps we have go into details what needs to be restored
> >>>>>>>>> after 'stop' and what needs to be restored after 'reset' and
> >>>>>>>>> use similar
> >>>> mechanism etc...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I think we should look into that.
> >>>>>>>> Any 'codification' of semantics between drivers and ethdev
> >>>>>>>> library is good in
> >>>> my opinion.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> At least right now, ethdev does not change any configuration in
> >>>>>>>> 'stop' and
> >>>> 'reset' from what I see.
> >>>>>>>> But that's on library side only.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> This way, if we would conclude that it makes sense for
> >>>>>>>>>> .dev_start() to handle all starting configuration aspects, we
> >>>>>>>>>> could track which drivers still rely
> >>>>>>>>> on configuration restore.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Dariusz Sosnowski (4):
> >>>>>>>>>> ethdev: rework config restore
> >>>>>>>>>> ethdev: omit promiscuous config restore if not required
> >>>>>>>>>> ethdev: omit all multicast config restore if not required
> >>>>>>>>>> ethdev: omit MAC address restore if not required
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> lib/ethdev/rte_ethdev.c | 39
> >>>>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-----
> >>>>>>>>>> lib/ethdev/rte_ethdev.h | 18 ++++++++++++++++++
> >>>>>>>>>> 2 files changed, 52 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> 2.39.5
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >
