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On Thu, Dec 8, 2022, 9:53 PM Dave Fisher <wave4d...@comcast.net> wrote:

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> > On Dec 8, 2022, at 6:44 PM, Greg Stein <gst...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > On 2022/12/08 20:30:02 Christian Grobmeier wrote:
> >> ...
> >> Bu t I mentioned, I get your point. Would you be less concerned with a
> domain like asf.social, since this is not an official domain? Assuming
> asf.social would be only for ASF community, but also allow "offical"
> accounts like press@asf.social?
> >
> > By definition, asf.social is an official domain. ... If it is not, then
> it is a trademark violation. One might argue the violation (good luck), but
> isn't the GOAL to have an official domain to establish a trust level?
> >
> > Trademarks, but more specifically Branding: has stated that the ASF will
> not "grow" new domains, and that apache.org should be used. Simply to use
> "asf.social" would require a clear exception grant from Branding.
> >
> > Next: each hostname/service under apache.org must be owned by an
> Officer of the Foundation. It was unclear for many years for many years who
> owned www.apache.org and the annou...@apache.org mailing list. The
> Foundation decided that is our public face, our public messaging, and
> should (thus) be owned by the VP Marketing & Publicity. M&P also owns our
> Twitter account and YouTube channel. By similar reasoning, M&P would own
> how an official hostname used for Mastodon would be portrayed to the
> general public; especially if it would become official messaging channel(s)
> for the Foundation.
> >
> > Note: individual TLPs create their own accounts on third party services,
> such as Twitter and Facebook, without consultation with M&P. That is a bit
> different from constructing an official [Mastodon] namespace for the
> Foundation. Who owns *that* namespace? (IMO: M&P)
> >
> > Should such an official hostname be desired, an Officer Owner will be
> required. That is likely best discussed internally, but ENOCARE, really.
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> I agree with Greg’s statement above because that’s how it works.
>
> Best,
> Dave
>
> >
> > Cheers,
> > -g
> >
> > ps. not speaking for Infra; just explaining how ownership of
> host/service $foo works at the ASF
> >
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