On 2022/12/08 20:30:02 Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>...
> Bu t I mentioned, I get your point. Would you be less concerned with a domain 
> like asf.social, since this is not an official domain? Assuming asf.social 
> would be only for ASF community, but also allow "offical" accounts like 
> press@asf.social?

By definition, asf.social is an official domain. ... If it is not, then it is a 
trademark violation. One might argue the violation (good luck), but isn't the 
GOAL to have an official domain to establish a trust level?

Trademarks, but more specifically Branding: has stated that the ASF will not 
"grow" new domains, and that apache.org should be used. Simply to use 
"asf.social" would require a clear exception grant from Branding.

Next: each hostname/service under apache.org must be owned by an Officer of the 
Foundation. It was unclear for many years for many years who owned 
www.apache.org and the annou...@apache.org mailing list. The Foundation decided 
that is our public face, our public messaging, and should (thus) be owned by 
the VP Marketing & Publicity. M&P also owns our Twitter account and YouTube 
channel. By similar reasoning, M&P would own how an official hostname used for 
Mastodon would be portrayed to the general public; especially if it would 
become official messaging channel(s) for the Foundation.

Note: individual TLPs create their own accounts on third party services, such 
as Twitter and Facebook, without consultation with M&P. That is a bit different 
from constructing an official [Mastodon] namespace for the Foundation. Who owns 
*that* namespace? (IMO: M&P)

Should such an official hostname be desired, an Officer Owner will be required. 
That is likely best discussed internally, but ENOCARE, really.

Cheers,
-g

ps. not speaking for Infra; just explaining how ownership of host/service $foo 
works at the ASF

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