I disagree. I think having an individual identity at Apache is important.
Just because I have omalley@X doesn't mean that it is the same as
omal...@apache.org. Having a gmail address does not mean that I don't use
omal...@apache.org.

.. Owen

On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 9:25 PM Joe Brockmeier <j...@apache.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 7:33 AM Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 4:50 AM Bertrand Delacretaz
> > <bdelacre...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > TL;DR: given a set of moderation guidelines and volunteers to
> > > > administer them, I'm willing to set up and host an ASF
> > > > Fediverse/ActivityPub instance on fly.io...
> > >
> > > Do you mean to open this to everybody who has an @apache.org account?
> > >
> > > Or just for a few official handles like announce@, TheASF@ ?
> > >
> > > If the latter, the moderation work might be much lower.
> > >
> > > Or maybe setting up *two* services makes sense, people.s.a.o and
> > > foundation.s.a.o, with the latter being more critical but less costly
> > > to operate from a moderation point of view.
> >
> > I don't want this to be me driving the social requirements.  I want
> > comdev and/or M&P (and ideally both) coming to an agreement on what is
> > best.
> >
> > I'm merely offering to make the technical and hosting parts happen.
> >
> > I'm OK with experiments (let's try this... no that didn't work, how
> > about that).  Preferably ones with clear exit criteria (example:
> > moderators don't show up and the instance gets shut down).
>
> From an M&P perspective I'd strongly prefer official handles like
> announce, infra, cloudstack, president, etc. and *not* jzb, rubys, and
> so forth.
>
> People are still figuring out the world of ActivityPub/Fediverse, etc.
> but I the moderation and policy problems become exponentially more
> difficult if we're providing a platform for individual voices vs.
> simply providing a platform for "if you want to follow the official
> social channel of CloudStack on ActivityPub, this is how you know it's
> real and can feel confident in following it" + "here's an easy way to
> find all the ASF projects on a social platform."
>
> Anybody who wants a presence on the fediverse as themselves can find
> one easily enough - it's not necessary for us to provide that service
> to members the same way it's necessary/desirable to provide email
> addresses.
>
> Best,
>
> jzb
> --
> Joe Brockmeier
> Vice President Marketing & Publicity
> j...@apache.org
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