I still fail to understand the reason for looking for alternatives to MLs for managing ASF projects...
It's less a question of us looking for alternatives, and more a question of observing the broader open source community and seeing that the younger/newer participants in this space want something different, expect something different, and are turned off by the current state of things.
Honestly -- I don't think we have a choice. At least I don't that we have when it comes to users. Those will engage with us in whatever manner they seem to perceive as most natural and it seems that in 2022 email is definitely not the first thing that comes to the users' mind. So... the choice we have to make is to -- either meet our users where they seem to be looking for us (or at least half-way) OR agree that we will be forever cut off from quite a number of them.
Yes, this is 100% it. I've long said that to reach our audience, you have to go where they are, and engage with them there. "Just subscribe to the mailing list", while an acceptable answer 10 years ago, is like speaking a foreign language today.
The process (email this cryptic address, wait for the cryptic response that you get, and follow the instructions in it, and hope for the best, then email this *other* address to talk to us) is just too involved, unintuitive, and just seems intentionally byzantine, to the people we're trying to engage with today. It makes sense to me, because I've been doing it for almost 30 years. But we need to listen to our audience, because they are no longer interested in jumping through arbitrary hoops when they can just go ask on Reddit instead.
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