Jim said: > IMO, the foundation and the project should do nothing associated with this. It should neither encourage or condone it. In no way should we enter into any agreement, contract, whatever, w/ Tidelift. If Tidelift wishes to work independently and directly w/ people, that's fine. But having the ASF and/or the project involved at any level should be disallowed.
This is exactly what I said on the LEGAL JIRA. So +1 to this framing. Now, personally, I think Tidelift can be a great ally of Open Source in general and as such I'm personally extremely willing to work with them to make sure they come up with tweaks for their model that make sense to us and other Open Source projects. More on that below: On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 7:56 AM Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 4:50 PM Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> > wrote: > > > > Hello all, > > > > Recently the Logging Services PMC was approached by Tidelift offering to > provide monetary support either to the project or individual committers. To > obtain that sponsorship the project has to agree to the terms at > https://support.tidelift.com/hc/en-us/articles/4406309657876-Lifter-agreement. > It appears that Struts has accepted this already. > > Perusing the agreement, I see talk of payment, license, and trademark. > So let's cover that, and the topic we want to cover, the Apache Way. > > Let's be welcoming and friendly, and focus more on what they need to > do, rather than on what they must not do > Huge +1 to the above. I really feel that Tidelift is onto something here and am very much willing to work with them (even in my personal capacity). > Outline: > > * So you want to pay a contributor? Great! If that is something you > wish to do, do so directly with each contributor as this is not a > service the ASF provides. Just make sure that each contributori is > aware of each of the five points listed on The Apache Way page[1]. In > particular, be aware that each individual contribution will be > evaluated on its merits and require consensus before being accepted. > > * All code must be licensed only under the Apache Software License, > with no additional conditions. Should an individual contributor > become a committer, they will be required to sign an ICLA. You are > welcome to sign a CCLA. > > * You are welcome to make nominative use of our trademarks. If you > require anything more, see out Trademark Policy[2]. > > [1] https://www.apache.org/theapacheway/ > [2] https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/ I'd like to refocus this thread (or perhaps fork a new one) on expanding this useful list started by Sam. I also plan to talk to Tidelift later this week so having as much data points as I possibly can would be super useful. Anyone has anything else they feel like adding to the above list? Thanks, Roman.
