> On Jan 20, 2019, at 9:52 PM, Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sharan,
> 
>> On Jan 13, 2019, at 5:59 AM, Sharan Foga <sha...@apache.org 
>> <mailto:sha...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Craig
>> 
>> One thing that we have done in OFBiz is that when a contributor requests 
>> access to our wiki, we ask them to complete an ICLA before the access 
>> request is processed. This has helped to capture people who for example want 
>> to create documentation.
> 
> This is a terrific idea. I think we should add something to the PMC pages 
> about recognizing contributions and asking contributors to file ICLAs.

Thinking about this some more, we might even recommend that the PMC actively 
monitor contributions from non-committers, not just those who request access to 
the wiki; and suggest that they should submit an ICLA.

Craig
> 
> In addition to the community building and the recognition, filing an ICLA has 
> subsequent benefits to the project and the future committer. Just as soon as 
> the PMC decides to invite the contributor to become a committer, they can 
> finish the process without any delays.
> 
> I'll propose some updates to the PMC community pages to reflect this.
> 
> Craig
>> 
>> We have setup a page with some basic explanations of what an ICLA is and why 
>> we are asking them to sign one.
>> 
>> https://s.apache.org/NrGP <https://s.apache.org/NrGP>
>> 
>> As well as setting them up with wiki access, we flag them in our Jira as 
>> part of a contributor group where they can then actually start assigning 
>> tasks (including the non technical ones) to themselves. 
>> 
>> Perhaps this could be one of the potential suggestions that we could include 
>> for projects.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Sharan
>> 
>> On 2019/01/10 15:52:19, Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:apache....@gmail.com>> wrote: 
>>> Hi Sally,
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 10, 2019, at 12:53 AM, Sally Khudairi <s...@apache.org 
>>>> <mailto:s...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> Great writeup and I can wholeheartedly agree with everything except this:
>>> 
>>>> 3) All project/committee participants are encouraged to sign an ASF ICLA 
>>>> in order to have their contributions recognized.
>>> 
>>> With my Secretary hat on: It is really a lot of work to process non-CLA 
>>> contributors. So I'd change this to:
>>> 
>>> 3) All project/committee participants are required to sign an ASF ICLA in 
>>> order to have their contributions recognized.
>>> 
>>> Normally this will have been done in step 2 but your writeup seems to imply 
>>> that filing an ICLA is optional. My recommendation: not optional.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Craig
>>> 
>>> Craig L Russell
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