Here's the Saros text: Saros provides a way for distributed developers to work together in real-time over the Internet and includes additional features supporting "distributed party programming", a looser type of collaboration. Saros is considered useful for virtual communities (as typically found in open source projects) in a number of distinct development scenarios, including: pair programming, code reviewing, coaching and side-by-side programming.
Uli On 07.03.2011 15:54, Ross Gardler wrote: > On 07/03/2011 10:50, Ulrich Stärk wrote: > >>> The Apache Software Foundation hope to help students to get in touch with >>> Opensource. Beside this we try to teach them how to develop and communicate >>> in a multi-culture organisation. All this will help them to get some >>> "real-world" expirience which will hopefully help them later in their >>> career. >> >> I wouldn't put emphasis on the career part. I think Googles motivation is to >> advocate open source, >> the application should reflect this. > > This isn't about Googles motivation, it's about ours. It wouldn't jurt to > mention raising awareness > of our work though. > >>> Did your organization participate in past GSoCs? If so, please summarize >>> your involvement and the successes and challenges of your participation. >>> >>> The ASF participate in many GSoCs yet. > > All GSoCs to date > > >> We had many success within the last >>> years. Many "prior" Students are now part of the community (committers) or >>> even part of the PMC. So the GSoC helped us (and our projects) to grew and >>> to build a better community around various projects. > > a few are even members > >>> If your organization participated in past GSoCs, please let us know the >>> ratio of students passing to students allocated, e.g. 2006: 3/6 for 3 out of >>> 6 students passed in 2006. >>> >>> .... (To be added) > > This has to be checked in the admin system, for some reason I can't get to > that data (won't let me > log in) Noirin, Luciano can you see it? > >>> What is the URL for your ideas page? >>> >>> http://s.apache.org/gsoc2011tasks > > That link says "The selected filter with id '12315354' does not exist. > > If you think this message is wrong, please consult your administrators about > getting the necessary > permissions. " > > I'm logged in with my JIRA user > >>> What is the main development mailing list for your organization? This >>> question will be shown to students who would like to get more information >>> about applying to your organization for GSoC 2011. If your organization uses >>> more than one list, please make sure to include a description of the list so >>> students know which to use. >>> >>> No central list, see the lists of Apache projects at >>> http://www.apache.org/and >>> http://incubator.apache.org/ > > Students may approach the GSOC Admins via dev@community.apache.org > >>> Does your organization have an application template you would like to see >>> students use? If so, please provide it now. Please note that it is a very >>> good idea to ask students to provide you with their contact information as >>> part of your template. Their contact details will not be shared with you >>> automatically via the GSoC 2011 site. >>> >>> No > > Probably expand here (if the form allows) with something like: > > Each one of our 100+ projects defines their own requirements for individual > students. We require > that students have already engaged with the project community and thus > contact details are known. > For administrative purposes we use the standard form provided by Melange. > >>> What criteria did you use to select the individuals who will act as mentors >>> for your organization? Please be as specific as possible. >>> >>> The Apache Software Foundation uses the Meritocracy principle to recognize >>> community contributors which are voted by other community members to receive >>> "committer karma" for a given project. These committers will be able to >>> propose ideas and volunteer as mentors for the selected project ideas. > > I'd add something like: > > "We expect our mentors to work with our admins and other experienced mentors. > Our evaluation process > gives priority to those who, through the meritocratic process, have > demonstrated a willingness to do > this. > >>> As for Administrators, we are using a set 4 admins/co-admins. > > These admins are supported by past admins through out Apache Community > Development Project > (http://community.apache.org) > >>> What is your plan for dealing with disappearing students? >>> >>> We will try to filter on them in the select process and do our best to >>> "detect" this as soon as possible. Beside this each project/mentor will keep >>> an eye on this > > I'd replace this with something like: > > "We work hard to filter potentially disappearing students during the > application phases. Over the > years we have been reasonably successful in defining application processes > and selection criteria > that guard against this. However, it is impossible to spot such cases with > 100% accuracy. Mentors > are expected to make all reasonable efforts to contact a disappearing student > through all > communication channels we have available. However, as an all volunteer > organisation we do not > require mentors to actively seek missing students." > > >>> What is your plan for dealing with disappearing mentors? >>> >>> Considering the ASF is a foundation, not a single project, we the admins >>> would ask for the project PMC to indicate a substitute mentor or provide >>> co-mentors for the selected projects. > > In all the years of GSoC we have never had a problem with lack of mentoring. > In all cases where a > mentor has had to step down a replacement has been found. > >>> What steps will you take to encourage students to interact with your >>> project's community before, during and after the program? >>> >>> We try to treat the students like a part of the community and try to assist >>> them. This way they feel like be a part of the ASF. This helps to keep them >>> motivated. >> >> Prior to submitting a proposal, students are required to discuss their ideas >> with the respective >> project communities. This is an explicit point we consider when ranking >> student proposals. During >> the program, our students should work together with their community in all >> technical matters. All >> students are encouraged to participate in their project after GSoC ends. >> Some might even be granted >> committer access based on their contributions. > > +1 > > Perhaps adding "It is policy at the ASF that project related decisions are > not made in private, > consequently students are required to participate in the community if they > want their code to be > included." at the start of the above para. > >>> If you are a large organization who is vouching for a small organization >>> applying to GSoC for their first time this year, please list their name and >>> why you think they'd be good candidates for GSoC here: >>> >>> Simal: >>> - A project registry using DOAP for data harvesting and sharing >>> - http://simal.googlecode.com > > Note this is a day job project, so I am biased. However... > > "This is a good candidate as it is run by Ross Gardler, 5 times GSoC admin > and 3 times mentor for > the ASF, as such the project team understand the GSoC processes and > expectations. It is an > interesting project that is attempting to use linked data to expose community > activity in open > source projects. Although it is in late alpha stages it is starting to > attract attention from a > small but passionate community. At present it has a focus on open source > produced in academic > research projects, but it can be used in much broader contexts." > > >>> >>> Saros: >>> - Distributed Collaborative Editing and Distributed Party Programming >>> - http://www.saros-project.org/ >> >> We should state a reason why we think these are good canditates for GSoC. >> I'll have 1-2 sentences >> prepared for Saros. >> >>> >>> Backup Admin (Link ID): >>> >>> Uli ... ( More to be added) > > If you want to add me (rgardler) it will enable me to keep an eye on the > status and help you with > the interface if necessary. It's not a complicated webtool, but it might help > to have someone who is > familar. > > Ross > >> >> Id is uli, in lower case if that matters. >> >> Uli >> > >
