Excellent, thank you. Sent from my mobile device.
On 20 Sep 2010, at 23:02, Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> wrote: > https://docs.google.com/document/edit?id=15ru0kwhqAbT8QAVC5Bs0KMeT06ZP5RNnIIbEbeDVQjo&hl=en > > Lazy consensus lazily added. > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> Ross, >> >> I completely spaced that out. I'm quite familiar with it. I'll add it. >> This is exactly why I wanted to get a review. >> >> --benson >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Ross Gardler <rgard...@apache.org> wrote: >>> This is a fine post and I have no objections to it being published as is. >>> However, in the projects I work on the concept of Lazy Consensus is >>> critical. That is, for the majority of actions permission need not be >>> sought since most actions can be reversed. Thus non objection means >>> consensus. >>> >>> This is particularly powerful since it requires people to be active if they >>> want to have a say in the project. That is, people can't just turn up at >>> discussion phase and throw a spanner in the works (as happens in so many >>> committee run endeavours). >>> >>> Of course this relies on people knowing when they should ask for input on >>> proposed changes. For me this is why merit is critical. For me merit >>> indicates someone has learned when to ask permission as opposed to when to >>> ask for forgiveness. >>> >>> If your experience in projects is different from mine with respect to lazy >>> consensus, or if you prefer not to add this detail, I'll follow up with a >>> post along the above lines. >>> >>> Sent from my mobile device. >>> >>> On 20 Sep 2010, at 21:20, Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I think I posted the link to a folder instead of a link to the doc. >>>> >>>> https://docs.google.com/document/edit?id=15ru0kwhqAbT8QAVC5Bs0KMeT06ZP5RNnIIbEbeDVQjo&hl=en >>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/edit?id=15ru0kwhqAbT8QAVC5Bs0KMeT06ZP5RNnIIbEbeDVQjo&hl=en >>>>> >>>>> Care to read before I put it on the blog? >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Ross Gardler <rgard...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>>> On 16/08/2010 23:03, Benson Margulies wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have a goofy blog at blogger. Is there some mechanism for having an >>>>>>> ASF >>>>>>> blog? >>>>>> >>>>>> http://blogs.apache.org/comdev/ >>>>>> >>>>>> If you post your content here we'll get it up there for you (we've not >>>>>> really worked out access rights to the blog yet so I'll not assume my own >>>>>> preference is universal at this point). >>>>>> >>>>>> Ross >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Ross Gardler<rgard...@apache.org> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 16/08/2010 22:37, Benson Margulies wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Recent discussions on various lists have led me to think about >>>>>>>>> 'Consensus >>>>>>>>> Process' as an area of possible effort for comdev. People are not born >>>>>>>>> knowing how to operate a consensus process, and some discussions >>>>>>>>> suggest >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> me that the communities might benefit from something written down as a >>>>>>>>> aid >>>>>>>>> memoire or training device. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> +1 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm sure that I could find some references on this subject, but I'm >>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> inclined to type up a somewhat personal introduction to consensus >>>>>>>>> process >>>>>>>>> and see if anyone thinks that it's worth further work and eventual >>>>>>>>> publication. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Starting with a personal blog post on the topic would be great. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You may want to look at the content at >>>>>>>> http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk/resources/meritocraticGovernanceModel.xml - >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> particular section 2.4 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This document discusses the mechanics of consensus and decision making >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> meritocratic project. However, it does not discuss the social aspects. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's always been my intention to bring that content here, but I've not >>>>>>>> found the time yet. It's currently CC-BY-SA, but I'm happy to make it >>>>>>>> available under an Apache Licence if it would compliment your work in >>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>> way. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ross >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >>
