Xeno, Your last sentence contains language that is completely inappropriate here.
Please take a breath. Any point you are trying to make is most likely to get lost by your invective. Gary On Fri, Jul 24, 2020, 12:40 Xeno Amess <xenoam...@gmail.com> wrote: > I will explain why github come to be center, but not apache gitbox. > 1.1 > I have right to register an account on github. > 1.2 > I registered an account at github. > 1.3 > I commit then create pr. > 1.4 > pr get reviewed then merged. > > 2.1 > I have no right to register on apache gitbox. > 2.2 > I can not register on apache gitbox. > 2.3 > I can not create pr on apache gitbox. > 2.4 > fuck off, apache gitbox, I'll go back to github. > > > Stefan Bodewig <bode...@apache.org> 于 2020年7月24日周五 下午11:45写道： > > > This is an attempt at answering something raised be Gilles in a > > different thread. I'm afraid it is getting longer than I > > intended. Something seems to need to get out. Sorry. > > > > On 2020-07-23, Gilles Sadowski wrote: > > > > > I missed the turn where this project's PMC decided that we must > > > be present on GH in order to continue what some of us have been > > > doing for more than 10 years. > > > > The project decided to set up github mirrors and with the exposure to > > github you get the rest of the package. > > > > I don't remember whether we had an explicit vote about enabling github > > mirrors, much less whether it has been a component by component > > decision. > > > > Putting aside what I think about github as a company one thing that I > > have observed with projects migrating to github across the board is it > > seems to lower the barrier for new contributors. This results in two > > things: (1) you get more contributions and (2) the contributors usually > > don't stick around, most contributions are drive-by one-off > > contributions. > > > > Gilles, I believe you have seen an uptick in contributions to the > > sevaral maths components even if you don't like they way they have > > happened. > > > > > There is a trend to make GH central to the development process > > > (marginalizing "dev@" and JIRA and colonizing "issues@"). > > > > This is troubling me as well. Where "this" is that using github PRs > > seems to keep the potential future committers away from the dev list and > > they never become part of a component's community. > > > > We do get more contributions anf the quality of the codebases likely > > improves because of this, but I feel it makes the community weaker. > > Discussions only rarely happen "here" nowadays. > > > > There are a few people like Gary, Rob and a few others who manage to > > devote time across almost all components and I adore them for that. And > > we need them because most of the components wouldn't stand a chance to > > get a release vote through without them. Our component communities have > > become too small to sustain themselves and at the same time some of them > > see more commits than they used to have in "the good old days" with many > > people active on this list. > > > > I haven't got an answer to this. > > > > [Sidenote: In the early 90s I contributed to my first open source > > project before CVS had a network protocol. I can not understand why > > having to checkout a SCM repository, creating a patch and sending it to > > somebody else is a burden that keeps people from contributing. I have > > learnt to accept this as a fact. There are lots of facts I cannot > > explain. And yes, I know I sound old. I am :-)] > > > > Stefan > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > > > >
