I will explain why github come to be center, but not apache gitbox.
1.1
I have right to register an account on github.
1.2
I registered an account at github.
1.3
I commit then create pr.
1.4
pr get reviewed then merged.

2.1
I have no right to register on apache gitbox.
2.2
I can not register on apache gitbox.
2.3
I can not create pr on apache gitbox.
2.4
fuck off, apache gitbox, I'll go back to github.


Stefan Bodewig <bode...@apache.org> 于 2020年7月24日周五 下午11:45写道:

> This is an attempt at answering something raised be Gilles in a
> different thread. I'm afraid it is getting longer than I
> intended. Something seems to need to get out. Sorry.
>
> On 2020-07-23, Gilles Sadowski wrote:
>
> > I missed the turn where this project's PMC decided that we must
> > be present on GH in order to continue what some of us have been
> > doing for more than 10 years.
>
> The project decided to set up github mirrors and with the exposure to
> github you get the rest of the package.
>
> I don't remember whether we had an explicit vote about enabling github
> mirrors, much less whether it has been a component by component
> decision.
>
> Putting aside what I think about github as a company one thing that I
> have observed with projects migrating to github across the board is it
> seems to lower the barrier for new contributors. This results in two
> things: (1) you get more contributions and (2) the contributors usually
> don't stick around, most contributions are drive-by one-off
> contributions.
>
> Gilles, I believe you have seen an uptick in contributions to the
> sevaral maths components even if you don't like they way they have
> happened.
>
> > There is a trend to make GH central to the development process
> > (marginalizing "dev@" and JIRA and colonizing "issues@").
>
> This is troubling me as well. Where "this" is that using github PRs
> seems to keep the potential future committers away from the dev list and
> they never become part of a component's community.
>
> We do get more contributions anf the quality of the codebases likely
> improves because of this, but I feel it makes the community weaker.
> Discussions only rarely happen "here" nowadays.
>
> There are a few people like Gary, Rob and a few others who manage to
> devote time across almost all components and I adore them for that. And
> we need them because most of the components wouldn't stand a chance to
> get a release vote through without them. Our component communities have
> become too small to sustain themselves and at the same time some of them
> see more commits than they used to have in "the good old days" with many
> people active on this list.
>
> I haven't got an answer to this.
>
> [Sidenote: In the early 90s I contributed to my first open source
> project before CVS had a network protocol. I can not understand why
> having to checkout a SCM repository, creating a patch and sending it to
> somebody else is a burden that keeps people from contributing. I have
> learnt to accept this as a fact. There are lots of facts I cannot
> explain. And yes, I know I sound old. I am :-)]
>
> Stefan
>
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