On 2020-07-23, Gilles Sadowski wrote:

> If I'm not mistaken, the issues@ ML was intended to keep one
> posted of and reactive on a human discussion happening on
> JIRA.  With the advent of JIRA-GitHub integration, the ratio of
> auto-generated messages relayed through that channel has
> exploded, with literally hundreds of redundant messages per
> week (or in a single day, today).

Most of them have been created by humans who open pull requests or
comment on them.

I agree that it is unfortunate we get each message twice for a github PR
that is linked to a JIRA issue and it would be nice if this could be
disabled somehow - but that's probably not possible without volunteering
to improve the tooling around the github/JIRA bridge. This (the
duplicate messages) would not be solved by spillting the MLs - you'd
still see each message twice if you subscribe to both lists.

> Could we have a ML dedicated to bot-generated messages

For things like dependabot I doubt we can really tell PRs opened by a
bot from those opened by a human.

> Specifically, I propose that
>     github-iss...@commons.apache.org
> be set up for relaying GitHub generated posts (like comments,
> PRs merging, and so on) and that
>     iss...@commons.apache.org
> returns to its original purpose (only).

Personally I don't care as I'd probably subscribe to the new list as
well and route all messages to the same place. If it helps with your
workflow then I'm +0.

For components that have github PRs enabled a PR not linked to a JIRA
issue could be missed by somebody not subscribed to github-issues -
which is not a problem as long as anybody who cares for the component is
subscribed.

Stefan

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