you forgot to mention "for a better world" ;) *Romain Manni-Bucau* *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>* *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/> *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau* *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
2013/8/20 Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> > and usually French folks like to start/do Revolution :-) > > > On 20 August 2013 20:36, Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > well to be honest default common theme looks very old and it would be > hard > > to sell it for something recent ;) > > > > *Romain Manni-Bucau* > > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>* > > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*< > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/> > > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau* > > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau* > > > > > > > > 2013/8/20 Benedikt Ritter <brit...@apache.org> > > > >> Not sure when we have decided to use fluido skin for our components but > >> since I've planned work on this, it serves as a nice show case :-) > >> > >> > >> 2013/8/20 Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> > >> > >> > I published the website: > >> > http://commons.apache.org/sandbox/commons-monitoring/ > >> > > >> > As it's more than a simple commons component, Incubator sounds a good > >> > idea. I can take care of that. > >> > But for personal reasons, I have a bit of traveling (and won't be > >> > connected a lot) this week and next week. > >> > So I won't be able to start with that before early september. > >> > If you can wait :-) > >> > > >> > > >> > On 20 August 2013 15:53, Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > > Thanks Matt! > >> > > > >> > > I'd really like to go ahead and ATM i think incubator would be great > >> but > >> > i > >> > > don't know how to proceed. Any help? > >> > > > >> > > *Romain Manni-Bucau* > >> > > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>* > >> > > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*< > >> > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/> > >> > > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau* > >> > > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau* > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > 2013/8/19 Matt Benson <gudnabr...@gmail.com> > >> > > > >> > >> This stuff looks great, Romain! I do note the repeated > misspelling of > >> > the > >> > >> word "mechanism" ('h' omitted), but I'm quite impressed both with > the > >> > site > >> > >> as well as the work it is documenting. > >> > >> > >> > >> Matt > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau > >> > >> <rmannibu...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > Up? > >> > >> > > >> > >> > Ps: here is a preview of the website > >> > >> > http://rmannibucau.github.io/commons-monitoring-dev/ > >> > >> > Le 10 août 2013 09:16, "Romain Manni-Bucau" < > rmannibu...@gmail.com> > >> a > >> > >> > écrit : > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > Hi > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > How to go ahead with it? > >> > >> > > Le 6 août 2013 04:07, "Romain Manni-Bucau" < > rmannibu...@gmail.com > >> > > >> > a > >> > >> > > écrit : > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > >> I thought to "i see you" or "i watch you"..., the idea being > to > >> > get i > >> > >> > and > >> > >> > >> y at the start and end to do "iwy" or "isy" which is a bit fun > >> and > >> > >> > could be > >> > >> > >> represented by a small and funny animal. > >> > >> > >> Le 6 août 2013 04:04, "Olivier Lamy" <ol...@apache.org> a > écrit > >> : > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> 2013/8/5 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>: > >> > >> > >>> > Hi guys, > >> > >> > >>> > > >> > >> > >>> > here where i am > >> > >> > >>> > > >> > >> > >>> > 1) we have a Repository class (more a singleton concept to > get > >> > >> access > >> > >> > >>> to > >> > >> > >>> > next objects), it uses a DataStore to create/find/update > two > >> > kind > >> > >> of > >> > >> > >>> > measures: counters (value + stat, it manages concurrency > info) > >> > and > >> > >> > >>> gauge > >> > >> > >>> > (history of values) > >> > >> > >>> > 2) we have a Configuration class which handles the > >> configuration > >> > >> > which > >> > >> > >>> > manages two things: configurations (key/value) and very > very > >> > >> > >>> lightweight > >> > >> > >>> > kind of IoC (relying on key/values). It uses properties ATM > >> but > >> > it > >> > >> > can > >> > >> > >>> > evolve. > >> > >> > >>> > 3) to measure method duration we have several modules: > spring > >> > >> (using > >> > >> > >>> > aopalliance), aspectj, cdi, aop (manual using > commons-proxy) > >> > >> > >>> > 4) we have a jdbc module for jdbc interception. The more > >> common > >> > way > >> > >> > to > >> > >> > >>> do > >> > >> > >>> > so is to use > >> org.apache.commons.monitoring.jdbc.MonitoringDriver > >> > >> and > >> > >> > a > >> > >> > >>> jdbc > >> > >> > >>> > url: > >> > >> > >>> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > jdbc:monitoring:hsqldb:mem:monitoring?delegateDriver=org.hsqldb.jdbcDriver > >> > >> > >>> > 5) a light GUI. It is packages as a jar and war (without > core > >> > and > >> > >> > jdbc > >> > >> > >>> > since these ones are often in the container). It uses a > basic > >> > >> filter > >> > >> > >>> then > >> > >> > >>> > delegates to Handlers/Renderers. It includes the concept of > >> > Plugins > >> > >> > >>> (all > >> > >> > >>> > the GUI excepted the home page uses it. It has ATM a JVM > >> > >> > (memory/cpu), > >> > >> > >>> > Report (counters), JMX (mbeans) plugins. Plugin uses a > >> > >> ServiceLoader > >> > >> > >>> SPI. > >> > >> > >>> > 6) Gauges: Gauge is a SPI, the interface just defines how > to > >> > >> measure > >> > >> > >>> the > >> > >> > >>> > value, what's the period and the role (name). Note: > >> > GaugeFactory is > >> > >> > >>> another > >> > >> > >>> > SPI to be able to get implementations of Gauge reusable so > >> these > >> > >> > gauges > >> > >> > >>> > will not use the Gauge SPI. > >> > >> > >>> > > >> > >> > >>> > Todo / open questions: > >> > >> > >>> > 1) move commons-monitoring to an incubator project? i > think it > >> > >> > doesn't > >> > >> > >>> > really match commons anymore since there are several > modules + > >> > it > >> > >> is > >> > >> > a > >> > >> > >>> bit > >> > >> > >>> > complicated because of the reporting module/deployment + it > >> can > >> > >> > really > >> > >> > >>> be > >> > >> > >>> > enhanced to get some more important features (several > >> DataStore > >> > >> > >>> > implementations, aggregation...) > >> > >> > >>> > >> > >> > >>> Yup make sense to move that. > >> > >> > >>> Maybe starting a discussion at incubator to find some other > >> > >> interested > >> > >> > >>> folks? > >> > >> > >>> > >> > >> > >>> BTW we have to find an other name (check here > >> > >> > >>> http:://monitoring.apache.org not sure infra folks will be > >> happy > >> > to > >> > >> > >>> change that :-) ) > >> > >> > >>> > >> > >> > >>> > 2) little bench to get an idea of the overhead > >> > >> > >>> > 3) (i'll start tomorrow i think) rework the website to get > >> > >> something > >> > >> > >>> up to > >> > >> > >>> > date and usable > >> > >> > >>> > > >> > >> > >>> > *Romain Manni-Bucau* > >> > >> > >>> > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>* > >> > >> > >>> > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*< > >> > >> > >>> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/> > >> > >> > >>> > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau* > >> > >> > >>> > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau* > >> > >> > >>> > > >> > >> > >>> > > >> > >> > >>> > > >> > >> > >>> > 2013/8/1 Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> > >> > >> > >>> > > >> > >> > >>> >> +1 > >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >> > >>> >> 2013/8/1 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>: > >> > >> > >>> >> > Do we want to keep cxf module? > >> > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >>> >> > IMO it can be replaced by a monitoring filter (web > module) > >> > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >>> >> > wdyt? > >> > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >>> >> > *Romain Manni-Bucau* > >> > >> > >>> >> > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau > >* > >> > >> > >>> >> > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*< > >> > >> > >>> >> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/> > >> > >> > >>> >> > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau* > >> > >> > >>> >> > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau* > >> > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >>> >> > 2013/7/31 Luc Maisonobe <luc.maison...@free.fr> > >> > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >>> >> >> Le 28/07/2013 18:30, Mark Struberg a écrit : > >> > >> > >>> >> >> > Hi folks! > >> > >> > >>> >> >> > > >> > >> > >>> >> >> > Romain is a great guy, I've now added him to > >> > commons-sandbox. > >> > >> > >>> >> >> > >> > >> > >>> >> >> Thanks Mark. > >> > >> > >>> >> >> > >> > >> > >>> >> >> I am really sorry for the delay. I have just read today > >> the > >> > >> mail > >> > >> > >>> >> >> Benedikt sent me 5 days ago :-( > >> > >> > >>> >> >> > >> > >> > >>> >> >> sorry > >> > >> > >>> >> >> Luc > >> > >> > >>> >> >> > >> > >> > >>> >> >> > > >> > >> > >>> >> >> > LieGrue, > >> > >> > >>> >> >> > strub > >> > >> > >>> >> >> > > >> > >> > >>> >> >> > > >> > >> > >>> >> >> > > >> > >> > >>> >> >> > > >> > >> > >>> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > >> > >>> >> >> > From: James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> > >> > >> > >>> >> >> > To: Commons Developers List <dev@commons.apache.org> > >> > >> > >>> >> >> > Cc: > >> > >> > >>> >> >> > Sent: Saturday, 27 July 2013, 3:46 > >> > >> > >>> >> >> > Subject: Re: commons-monitoring? > >> > >> > >>> >> >> > > >> > >> > >>> >> >> > On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau > >> > >> > >>> >> >> > <rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >>> >> >> >> Well we can discuss it in another thread but > basically > >> > >> commons > >> > >> > >>> spirit > >> > >> > >>> >> >> for > >> > >> > >>> >> >> >> me is more basic and shouldn't be a facade (excepted > >> > >> logging). > >> > >> > >>> So i'd > >> > >> > >>> >> >> >> rather see proxy as an implementation of proxying > using > >> > asm > >> > >> > >>> >> efficiently. > >> > >> > >>> >> >> >> The issue with proxying is not its lifecycle or API > in > >> > >> general > >> > >> > >>> but > >> > >> > >>> >> its > >> > >> > >>> >> >> >> specificities (cache, proxy names, handlers...). The > >> best > >> > >> > >>> solution > >> > >> > >>> >> IMO > >> > >> > >>> >> >> is > >> > >> > >>> >> >> >> to propose a unified solution which could be a > facade > >> but > >> > >> > facade > >> > >> > >>> >> means > >> > >> > >>> >> >> all > >> > >> > >>> >> >> >> impl specificities in its API which makes it harder > or > >> > >> > specific > >> > >> > >>> (in > >> > >> > >>> >> v1 > >> > >> > >>> >> >> >> instantiating the factory was a pain IMO since it is > >> > >> > specific). > >> > >> > >>> ATM > >> > >> > >>> >> the > >> > >> > >>> >> >> >> question for me is always which one do i import > >> > depending my > >> > >> > >>> >> container, > >> > >> > >>> >> >> do > >> > >> > >>> >> >> >> i test against all proxies impl? Etc... it makes > libs > >> > hard > >> > >> to > >> > >> > >>> write > >> > >> > >>> >> and > >> > >> > >>> >> >> >> maintain > >> > >> > >>> >> >> > > >> > >> > >>> >> >> > Great feedback! 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