and usually French folks like to start/do Revolution :-)
On 20 August 2013 20:36, Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote: > well to be honest default common theme looks very old and it would be hard > to sell it for something recent ;) > > *Romain Manni-Bucau* > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>* > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/> > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau* > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau* > > > > 2013/8/20 Benedikt Ritter <brit...@apache.org> > >> Not sure when we have decided to use fluido skin for our components but >> since I've planned work on this, it serves as a nice show case :-) >> >> >> 2013/8/20 Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> >> >> > I published the website: >> > http://commons.apache.org/sandbox/commons-monitoring/ >> > >> > As it's more than a simple commons component, Incubator sounds a good >> > idea. I can take care of that. >> > But for personal reasons, I have a bit of traveling (and won't be >> > connected a lot) this week and next week. >> > So I won't be able to start with that before early september. >> > If you can wait :-) >> > >> > >> > On 20 August 2013 15:53, Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > > Thanks Matt! >> > > >> > > I'd really like to go ahead and ATM i think incubator would be great >> but >> > i >> > > don't know how to proceed. Any help? >> > > >> > > *Romain Manni-Bucau* >> > > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>* >> > > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*< >> > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/> >> > > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau* >> > > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau* >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > 2013/8/19 Matt Benson <gudnabr...@gmail.com> >> > > >> > >> This stuff looks great, Romain! I do note the repeated misspelling of >> > the >> > >> word "mechanism" ('h' omitted), but I'm quite impressed both with the >> > site >> > >> as well as the work it is documenting. >> > >> >> > >> Matt >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau >> > >> <rmannibu...@gmail.com>wrote: >> > >> >> > >> > Up? >> > >> > >> > >> > Ps: here is a preview of the website >> > >> > http://rmannibucau.github.io/commons-monitoring-dev/ >> > >> > Le 10 août 2013 09:16, "Romain Manni-Bucau" <rmannibu...@gmail.com> >> a >> > >> > écrit : >> > >> > >> > >> > > Hi >> > >> > > >> > >> > > How to go ahead with it? >> > >> > > Le 6 août 2013 04:07, "Romain Manni-Bucau" <rmannibu...@gmail.com >> > >> > a >> > >> > > écrit : >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> I thought to "i see you" or "i watch you"..., the idea being to >> > get i >> > >> > and >> > >> > >> y at the start and end to do "iwy" or "isy" which is a bit fun >> and >> > >> > could be >> > >> > >> represented by a small and funny animal. >> > >> > >> Le 6 août 2013 04:04, "Olivier Lamy" <ol...@apache.org> a écrit >> : >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >>> 2013/8/5 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>: >> > >> > >>> > Hi guys, >> > >> > >>> > >> > >> > >>> > here where i am >> > >> > >>> > >> > >> > >>> > 1) we have a Repository class (more a singleton concept to get >> > >> access >> > >> > >>> to >> > >> > >>> > next objects), it uses a DataStore to create/find/update two >> > kind >> > >> of >> > >> > >>> > measures: counters (value + stat, it manages concurrency info) >> > and >> > >> > >>> gauge >> > >> > >>> > (history of values) >> > >> > >>> > 2) we have a Configuration class which handles the >> configuration >> > >> > which >> > >> > >>> > manages two things: configurations (key/value) and very very >> > >> > >>> lightweight >> > >> > >>> > kind of IoC (relying on key/values). It uses properties ATM >> but >> > it >> > >> > can >> > >> > >>> > evolve. >> > >> > >>> > 3) to measure method duration we have several modules: spring >> > >> (using >> > >> > >>> > aopalliance), aspectj, cdi, aop (manual using commons-proxy) >> > >> > >>> > 4) we have a jdbc module for jdbc interception. The more >> common >> > way >> > >> > to >> > >> > >>> do >> > >> > >>> > so is to use >> org.apache.commons.monitoring.jdbc.MonitoringDriver >> > >> and >> > >> > a >> > >> > >>> jdbc >> > >> > >>> > url: >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> jdbc:monitoring:hsqldb:mem:monitoring?delegateDriver=org.hsqldb.jdbcDriver >> > >> > >>> > 5) a light GUI. It is packages as a jar and war (without core >> > and >> > >> > jdbc >> > >> > >>> > since these ones are often in the container). It uses a basic >> > >> filter >> > >> > >>> then >> > >> > >>> > delegates to Handlers/Renderers. It includes the concept of >> > Plugins >> > >> > >>> (all >> > >> > >>> > the GUI excepted the home page uses it. It has ATM a JVM >> > >> > (memory/cpu), >> > >> > >>> > Report (counters), JMX (mbeans) plugins. Plugin uses a >> > >> ServiceLoader >> > >> > >>> SPI. >> > >> > >>> > 6) Gauges: Gauge is a SPI, the interface just defines how to >> > >> measure >> > >> > >>> the >> > >> > >>> > value, what's the period and the role (name). Note: >> > GaugeFactory is >> > >> > >>> another >> > >> > >>> > SPI to be able to get implementations of Gauge reusable so >> these >> > >> > gauges >> > >> > >>> > will not use the Gauge SPI. >> > >> > >>> > >> > >> > >>> > Todo / open questions: >> > >> > >>> > 1) move commons-monitoring to an incubator project? i think it >> > >> > doesn't >> > >> > >>> > really match commons anymore since there are several modules + >> > it >> > >> is >> > >> > a >> > >> > >>> bit >> > >> > >>> > complicated because of the reporting module/deployment + it >> can >> > >> > really >> > >> > >>> be >> > >> > >>> > enhanced to get some more important features (several >> DataStore >> > >> > >>> > implementations, aggregation...) >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> Yup make sense to move that. >> > >> > >>> Maybe starting a discussion at incubator to find some other >> > >> interested >> > >> > >>> folks? >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> BTW we have to find an other name (check here >> > >> > >>> http:://monitoring.apache.org not sure infra folks will be >> happy >> > to >> > >> > >>> change that :-) ) >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> > 2) little bench to get an idea of the overhead >> > >> > >>> > 3) (i'll start tomorrow i think) rework the website to get >> > >> something >> > >> > >>> up to >> > >> > >>> > date and usable >> > >> > >>> > >> > >> > >>> > *Romain Manni-Bucau* >> > >> > >>> > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>* >> > >> > >>> > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*< >> > >> > >>> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/> >> > >> > >>> > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau* >> > >> > >>> > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau* >> > >> > >>> > >> > >> > >>> > >> > >> > >>> > >> > >> > >>> > 2013/8/1 Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> >> > >> > >>> > >> > >> > >>> >> +1 >> > >> > >>> >> >> > >> > >>> >> 2013/8/1 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>: >> > >> > >>> >> > Do we want to keep cxf module? >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >> > >>> >> > IMO it can be replaced by a monitoring filter (web module) >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >> > >>> >> > wdyt? >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >> > >>> >> > *Romain Manni-Bucau* >> > >> > >>> >> > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>* >> > >> > >>> >> > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*< >> > >> > >>> >> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/> >> > >> > >>> >> > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau* >> > >> > >>> >> > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau* >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >> > >>> >> > 2013/7/31 Luc Maisonobe <luc.maison...@free.fr> >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >> > >>> >> >> Le 28/07/2013 18:30, Mark Struberg a écrit : >> > >> > >>> >> >> > Hi folks! >> > >> > >>> >> >> > >> > >> > >>> >> >> > Romain is a great guy, I've now added him to >> > commons-sandbox. >> > >> > >>> >> >> >> > >> > >>> >> >> Thanks Mark. >> > >> > >>> >> >> >> > >> > >>> >> >> I am really sorry for the delay. I have just read today >> the >> > >> mail >> > >> > >>> >> >> Benedikt sent me 5 days ago :-( >> > >> > >>> >> >> >> > >> > >>> >> >> sorry >> > >> > >>> >> >> Luc >> > >> > >>> >> >> >> > >> > >>> >> >> > >> > >> > >>> >> >> > LieGrue, >> > >> > >>> >> >> > strub >> > >> > >>> >> >> > >> > >> > >>> >> >> > >> > >> > >>> >> >> > >> > >> > >>> >> >> > >> > >> > >>> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > >> > >>> >> >> > From: James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> >> > >> > >>> >> >> > To: Commons Developers List <dev@commons.apache.org> >> > >> > >>> >> >> > Cc: >> > >> > >>> >> >> > Sent: Saturday, 27 July 2013, 3:46 >> > >> > >>> >> >> > Subject: Re: commons-monitoring? >> > >> > >>> >> >> > >> > >> > >>> >> >> > On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau >> > >> > >>> >> >> > <rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > >>> >> >> >> Well we can discuss it in another thread but basically >> > >> commons >> > >> > >>> spirit >> > >> > >>> >> >> for >> > >> > >>> >> >> >> me is more basic and shouldn't be a facade (excepted >> > >> logging). >> > >> > >>> So i'd >> > >> > >>> >> >> >> rather see proxy as an implementation of proxying using >> > asm >> > >> > >>> >> efficiently. >> > >> > >>> >> >> >> The issue with proxying is not its lifecycle or API in >> > >> general >> > >> > >>> but >> > >> > >>> >> its >> > >> > >>> >> >> >> specificities (cache, proxy names, handlers...). The >> best >> > >> > >>> solution >> > >> > >>> >> IMO >> > >> > >>> >> >> is >> > >> > >>> >> >> >> to propose a unified solution which could be a facade >> but >> > >> > facade >> > >> > >>> >> means >> > >> > >>> >> >> all >> > >> > >>> >> >> >> impl specificities in its API which makes it harder or >> > >> > specific >> > >> > >>> (in >> > >> > >>> >> v1 >> > >> > >>> >> >> >> instantiating the factory was a pain IMO since it is >> > >> > specific). >> > >> > >>> ATM >> > >> > >>> >> the >> > >> > >>> >> >> >> question for me is always which one do i import >> > depending my >> > >> > >>> >> container, >> > >> > >>> >> >> do >> > >> > >>> >> >> >> i test against all proxies impl? Etc... it makes libs >> > hard >> > >> to >> > >> > >>> write >> > >> > >>> >> and >> > >> > >>> >> >> >> maintain >> > >> > >>> >> >> > >> > >> > >>> >> >> > Great feedback! 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