well to be honest default common theme looks very old and it would be hard to sell it for something recent ;)
*Romain Manni-Bucau* *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>* *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/> *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau* *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau* 2013/8/20 Benedikt Ritter <brit...@apache.org> > Not sure when we have decided to use fluido skin for our components but > since I've planned work on this, it serves as a nice show case :-) > > > 2013/8/20 Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> > > > I published the website: > > http://commons.apache.org/sandbox/commons-monitoring/ > > > > As it's more than a simple commons component, Incubator sounds a good > > idea. I can take care of that. > > But for personal reasons, I have a bit of traveling (and won't be > > connected a lot) this week and next week. > > So I won't be able to start with that before early september. > > If you can wait :-) > > > > > > On 20 August 2013 15:53, Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Thanks Matt! > > > > > > I'd really like to go ahead and ATM i think incubator would be great > but > > i > > > don't know how to proceed. Any help? > > > > > > *Romain Manni-Bucau* > > > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>* > > > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*< > > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/> > > > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau* > > > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau* > > > > > > > > > > > > 2013/8/19 Matt Benson <gudnabr...@gmail.com> > > > > > >> This stuff looks great, Romain! I do note the repeated misspelling of > > the > > >> word "mechanism" ('h' omitted), but I'm quite impressed both with the > > site > > >> as well as the work it is documenting. > > >> > > >> Matt > > >> > > >> > > >> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau > > >> <rmannibu...@gmail.com>wrote: > > >> > > >> > Up? > > >> > > > >> > Ps: here is a preview of the website > > >> > http://rmannibucau.github.io/commons-monitoring-dev/ > > >> > Le 10 août 2013 09:16, "Romain Manni-Bucau" <rmannibu...@gmail.com> > a > > >> > écrit : > > >> > > > >> > > Hi > > >> > > > > >> > > How to go ahead with it? > > >> > > Le 6 août 2013 04:07, "Romain Manni-Bucau" <rmannibu...@gmail.com > > > > a > > >> > > écrit : > > >> > > > > >> > >> I thought to "i see you" or "i watch you"..., the idea being to > > get i > > >> > and > > >> > >> y at the start and end to do "iwy" or "isy" which is a bit fun > and > > >> > could be > > >> > >> represented by a small and funny animal. > > >> > >> Le 6 août 2013 04:04, "Olivier Lamy" <ol...@apache.org> a écrit > : > > >> > >> > > >> > >>> 2013/8/5 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>: > > >> > >>> > Hi guys, > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > here where i am > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > 1) we have a Repository class (more a singleton concept to get > > >> access > > >> > >>> to > > >> > >>> > next objects), it uses a DataStore to create/find/update two > > kind > > >> of > > >> > >>> > measures: counters (value + stat, it manages concurrency info) > > and > > >> > >>> gauge > > >> > >>> > (history of values) > > >> > >>> > 2) we have a Configuration class which handles the > configuration > > >> > which > > >> > >>> > manages two things: configurations (key/value) and very very > > >> > >>> lightweight > > >> > >>> > kind of IoC (relying on key/values). It uses properties ATM > but > > it > > >> > can > > >> > >>> > evolve. > > >> > >>> > 3) to measure method duration we have several modules: spring > > >> (using > > >> > >>> > aopalliance), aspectj, cdi, aop (manual using commons-proxy) > > >> > >>> > 4) we have a jdbc module for jdbc interception. The more > common > > way > > >> > to > > >> > >>> do > > >> > >>> > so is to use > org.apache.commons.monitoring.jdbc.MonitoringDriver > > >> and > > >> > a > > >> > >>> jdbc > > >> > >>> > url: > > >> > >>> > > >> > > > >> > > > jdbc:monitoring:hsqldb:mem:monitoring?delegateDriver=org.hsqldb.jdbcDriver > > >> > >>> > 5) a light GUI. It is packages as a jar and war (without core > > and > > >> > jdbc > > >> > >>> > since these ones are often in the container). It uses a basic > > >> filter > > >> > >>> then > > >> > >>> > delegates to Handlers/Renderers. It includes the concept of > > Plugins > > >> > >>> (all > > >> > >>> > the GUI excepted the home page uses it. It has ATM a JVM > > >> > (memory/cpu), > > >> > >>> > Report (counters), JMX (mbeans) plugins. Plugin uses a > > >> ServiceLoader > > >> > >>> SPI. > > >> > >>> > 6) Gauges: Gauge is a SPI, the interface just defines how to > > >> measure > > >> > >>> the > > >> > >>> > value, what's the period and the role (name). Note: > > GaugeFactory is > > >> > >>> another > > >> > >>> > SPI to be able to get implementations of Gauge reusable so > these > > >> > gauges > > >> > >>> > will not use the Gauge SPI. > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > Todo / open questions: > > >> > >>> > 1) move commons-monitoring to an incubator project? i think it > > >> > doesn't > > >> > >>> > really match commons anymore since there are several modules + > > it > > >> is > > >> > a > > >> > >>> bit > > >> > >>> > complicated because of the reporting module/deployment + it > can > > >> > really > > >> > >>> be > > >> > >>> > enhanced to get some more important features (several > DataStore > > >> > >>> > implementations, aggregation...) > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> Yup make sense to move that. > > >> > >>> Maybe starting a discussion at incubator to find some other > > >> interested > > >> > >>> folks? > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> BTW we have to find an other name (check here > > >> > >>> http:://monitoring.apache.org not sure infra folks will be > happy > > to > > >> > >>> change that :-) ) > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > 2) little bench to get an idea of the overhead > > >> > >>> > 3) (i'll start tomorrow i think) rework the website to get > > >> something > > >> > >>> up to > > >> > >>> > date and usable > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > *Romain Manni-Bucau* > > >> > >>> > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>* > > >> > >>> > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*< > > >> > >>> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/> > > >> > >>> > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau* > > >> > >>> > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau* > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > 2013/8/1 Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> >> +1 > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> 2013/8/1 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>: > > >> > >>> >> > Do we want to keep cxf module? > > >> > >>> >> > > > >> > >>> >> > IMO it can be replaced by a monitoring filter (web module) > > >> > >>> >> > > > >> > >>> >> > wdyt? > > >> > >>> >> > > > >> > >>> >> > *Romain Manni-Bucau* > > >> > >>> >> > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>* > > >> > >>> >> > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*< > > >> > >>> >> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/> > > >> > >>> >> > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau* > > >> > >>> >> > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau* > > >> > >>> >> > > > >> > >>> >> > > > >> > >>> >> > > > >> > >>> >> > 2013/7/31 Luc Maisonobe <luc.maison...@free.fr> > > >> > >>> >> > > > >> > >>> >> >> Le 28/07/2013 18:30, Mark Struberg a écrit : > > >> > >>> >> >> > Hi folks! > > >> > >>> >> >> > > > >> > >>> >> >> > Romain is a great guy, I've now added him to > > commons-sandbox. > > >> > >>> >> >> > > >> > >>> >> >> Thanks Mark. > > >> > >>> >> >> > > >> > >>> >> >> I am really sorry for the delay. I have just read today > the > > >> mail > > >> > >>> >> >> Benedikt sent me 5 days ago :-( > > >> > >>> >> >> > > >> > >>> >> >> sorry > > >> > >>> >> >> Luc > > >> > >>> >> >> > > >> > >>> >> >> > > > >> > >>> >> >> > LieGrue, > > >> > >>> >> >> > strub > > >> > >>> >> >> > > > >> > >>> >> >> > > > >> > >>> >> >> > > > >> > >>> >> >> > > > >> > >>> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> > >>> >> >> > From: James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> > > >> > >>> >> >> > To: Commons Developers List <dev@commons.apache.org> > > >> > >>> >> >> > Cc: > > >> > >>> >> >> > Sent: Saturday, 27 July 2013, 3:46 > > >> > >>> >> >> > Subject: Re: commons-monitoring? > > >> > >>> >> >> > > > >> > >>> >> >> > On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau > > >> > >>> >> >> > <rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > >>> >> >> >> Well we can discuss it in another thread but basically > > >> commons > > >> > >>> spirit > > >> > >>> >> >> for > > >> > >>> >> >> >> me is more basic and shouldn't be a facade (excepted > > >> logging). > > >> > >>> So i'd > > >> > >>> >> >> >> rather see proxy as an implementation of proxying using > > asm > > >> > >>> >> efficiently. > > >> > >>> >> >> >> The issue with proxying is not its lifecycle or API in > > >> general > > >> > >>> but > > >> > >>> >> its > > >> > >>> >> >> >> specificities (cache, proxy names, handlers...). The > best > > >> > >>> solution > > >> > >>> >> IMO > > >> > >>> >> >> is > > >> > >>> >> >> >> to propose a unified solution which could be a facade > but > > >> > facade > > >> > >>> >> means > > >> > >>> >> >> all > > >> > >>> >> >> >> impl specificities in its API which makes it harder or > > >> > specific > > >> > >>> (in > > >> > >>> >> v1 > > >> > >>> >> >> >> instantiating the factory was a pain IMO since it is > > >> > specific). > > >> > >>> ATM > > >> > >>> >> the > > >> > >>> >> >> >> question for me is always which one do i import > > depending my > > >> > >>> >> container, > > >> > >>> >> >> do > > >> > >>> >> >> >> i test against all proxies impl? Etc... it makes libs > > hard > > >> to > > >> > >>> write > > >> > >>> >> and > > >> > >>> >> >> >> maintain > > >> > >>> >> >> > > > >> > >>> >> >> > Great feedback! Please start another thread so we can > > >> discuss. > > >> > >>> >> >> > > > >> > >>> >> >> > > > >> > >>> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > >>> >> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > > >> > >>> >> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: > > dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > >> > >>> >> >> > > > >> > >>> >> >> > > > >> > >>> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > >>> >> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > > >> > >>> >> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: > > dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > >> > >>> >> >> > > > >> > >>> >> >> > > > >> > >>> >> >> > > >> > >>> >> >> > > >> > >>> >> >> > > >> > >>> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > >>> >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: > dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > > >> > >>> >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: > > dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > >> > >>> >> >> > > >> > >>> >> >> > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> -- > > >> > >>> >> Olivier Lamy > > >> > >>> >> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au > > >> > >>> >> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > >>> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > > >> > >>> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> -- > > >> > >>> Olivier Lamy > > >> > >>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au > > >> > >>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > > >> > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Olivier Lamy > > Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au > > http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > > > > > > -- > http://people.apache.org/~britter/ > http://www.systemoutprintln.de/ > http://twitter.com/BenediktRitter > http://github.com/britter >
