Mike I share your opinion most of us have been pretty much on 4.3 until now, and pushing out the release seems reasonable. As I called out in earlier mail the feature proposal date was not called out for 4.4 and as such giving little extra room seems reasonable.
Animesh > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Tutkowski [mailto:mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:29 AM > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Subject: Re: 4.4 Feature Freeze > > I think we're having this discussion after every release because we're > beginning to realize that a four-month release cycle has not been very > realistic for us yet. > > The main issue I encounter is our month-long RC cycle where I spend a > bunch of time validating the RC and (during that timeframe) less time > developing for the next release as I had initially planned. > > Perhaps instead of extending the cycle we could consider ways to actually > meet the schedule on a consistent basis. That would be fine, as well. > > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 8:04 AM, Hugo Trippaers <h...@trippaers.nl> > wrote: > > > -1 on postponing the feature freeze. We are having this discussion > > after every release, however we agreed to do a 4 month cycle so let's stick > to it. > > > > If there are important features that are currently being developed but > > might not make this cut-off date we should discuss that separately, > > but as a point of principle lets stick to the release schedule as proposed. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Hugo > > > > > > On 26 feb. 2014, at 15:23, Tracy Phillips > > <tracy.phill...@weberize.com> > > wrote: > > > > > +1 to Daan. > > > > > > Tracy Phillips > > > Weberize, Inc. > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Daan Hoogland > > ><daan.hoogl...@gmail.com > > >wrote: > > > > > >> -1 for postponing the feature freeze. It will amount to more > > >> features in the release. I'd rather shorten the cycle and do more > > >> releases then to pack more bugs in a single go. > > >> > > >> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Guo Star <ghxand...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >>> +1 > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> 2014-02-26 20:01 GMT+08:00 Abhinandan Prateek < > > >> abhinandan.prat...@citrix.com > > >>>> : > > >>> > > >>>> +1 for 4.4 feature freeze on 3/28. > > >>>> > > >>>> On 26/02/14 10:01 am, "Sateesh Chodapuneedi" > > >>>> <sateesh.chodapune...@citrix.com> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>>> -----Original Message----- > > >>>>>> From: Mike Tutkowski [mailto:mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com] > > >>>>>> Sent: 26 February 2014 04:46 > > >>>>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > > >>>>>> Subject: Re: 4.4 Feature Freeze > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I think this is a good idea, Animesh (to push out feature > > >>>>>> freeze to 3/28). > > >>>>> > > >>>>> +1 to move 4.4 feature freeze date to 3/28. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Regards, > > >>>>> Sateesh > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> I also agree we should discuss 4+ month development cycles again. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Animesh Chaturvedi < > > >>>>>> animesh.chaturv...@citrix.com> wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> I will start a separate discussion on 4 month cycle or longer, > > >>>>>>> but wanted to call out one more important date. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> We have a last day for feature proposal date which is > > >>>>>>> typically a month before feature freeze date. If following 4.3 > > >>>>>>> schedule + 4 > > >> month > > >>>>>>> it would have been 2/14 and we are already past that. Since it > > >>>>>>> was > > >> not > > >>>>>>> announced for > > >>>>>>> 4.4 release yet my suggestion would be to keep feature > > >>>>>>> proposal > > >> open > > >>>>>>> for another week and push all the dates out by 2 weeks to > > >>>>>>> give > > >> folks > > >>>>>>> opportunity to finish up their features for new proposals that > > >>>>>>> are > > >> yet > > >>>>>>> to come out. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> To be clear that would mean pushing out feature freeze to 3/28 > > >>>>>>> from > > >>>>>>> 3/14 and all the other dates likewise. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Thanks > > >>>>>>> Animesh > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > > >>>>>>>> From: Animesh Chaturvedi > > >>>>>>>> [mailto:animesh.chaturv...@citrix.com] > > >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 1:05 PM > > >>>>>>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > > >>>>>>>> Subject: RE: 4.4 Feature Freeze > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> With the experience of 4.2 and 4.3 I think we should discuss > > >>>>>>>> if > > >> we > > >>>>>>>> can realistically achieve 4 month cycle our RCs take 2 > > >>>>>>>> months. I > > >> was > > >>>>>>>> going to open up the discussion after 4.3 is shipped though. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > > >>>>>>>>> From: Trippie [mailto:trip...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Hugo > > >>>>>>>>> Trippaers > > >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 8:50 AM > > >>>>>>>>> To: <dev@cloudstack.apache.org> > > >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: 4.4 Feature Freeze > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Hey, > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> If we stick to our 4 month release schedule the feature > > >>>>>>>>> freeze > > >> is > > >>>>>>>>> four months after the feature freeze of 4.3. The feature > > >> freeze of > > >>>>>>>>> 4.3 was > > >>>>>>> 8 Nov > > >>>>>>>> 2013. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> So the proposed release schedule for 4.4 would look like > > >>>>>>>>> this (dates slightly modified to take efficiency and RM's > > >>>>>>>>> personal > > >> life > > >>>>>>>>> into > > >>>>>>> account ;-) ): > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Feature Freeze: March 14, 2014 > > >>>>>>>>> Testing/Bug Fixes: March 15, 2014 till April > > >> 18, > > >>>>>> 2014 > > >>>>>>>>> (direct access for committers) > > >>>>>>>>> Stability Fixes only: April 19, 2014 till > > >>>>>>> release (cherry picks > > >>>>>>>>> by RM only) > > >>>>>>>>> First RC: May 9, 2014 > > >>>>>>>>> Optimistic Release Date: May 19, 2014 > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Cheers, > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Hugo > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> On 25 feb. 2014, at 16:35, Sudha Ponnaganti > > >>>>>>>>> <sudha.ponnaga...@citrix.com> > > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi, > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> I am also looking for feature freeze dates for 4.4. 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