I think we're having this discussion after every release because we're beginning to realize that a four-month release cycle has not been very realistic for us yet.
The main issue I encounter is our month-long RC cycle where I spend a bunch of time validating the RC and (during that timeframe) less time developing for the next release as I had initially planned. Perhaps instead of extending the cycle we could consider ways to actually meet the schedule on a consistent basis. That would be fine, as well. On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 8:04 AM, Hugo Trippaers <h...@trippaers.nl> wrote: > -1 on postponing the feature freeze. We are having this discussion after > every release, however we agreed to do a 4 month cycle so let's stick to it. > > If there are important features that are currently being developed but > might not make this cut-off date we should discuss that separately, but as > a point of principle lets stick to the release schedule as proposed. > > > Cheers, > > Hugo > > > On 26 feb. 2014, at 15:23, Tracy Phillips <tracy.phill...@weberize.com> > wrote: > > > +1 to Daan. > > > > Tracy Phillips > > Weberize, Inc. > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Daan Hoogland <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > >> -1 for postponing the feature freeze. It will amount to more features > >> in the release. I'd rather shorten the cycle and do more releases then > >> to pack more bugs in a single go. > >> > >> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Guo Star <ghxand...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> +1 > >>> > >>> > >>> 2014-02-26 20:01 GMT+08:00 Abhinandan Prateek < > >> abhinandan.prat...@citrix.com > >>>> : > >>> > >>>> +1 for 4.4 feature freeze on 3/28. > >>>> > >>>> On 26/02/14 10:01 am, "Sateesh Chodapuneedi" > >>>> <sateesh.chodapune...@citrix.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>> From: Mike Tutkowski [mailto:mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com] > >>>>>> Sent: 26 February 2014 04:46 > >>>>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > >>>>>> Subject: Re: 4.4 Feature Freeze > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I think this is a good idea, Animesh (to push out feature freeze to > >>>>>> 3/28). > >>>>> > >>>>> +1 to move 4.4 feature freeze date to 3/28. > >>>>> > >>>>> Regards, > >>>>> Sateesh > >>>>> > >>>>>> I also agree we should discuss 4+ month development cycles again. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Animesh Chaturvedi < > >>>>>> animesh.chaturv...@citrix.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> I will start a separate discussion on 4 month cycle or longer, but > >>>>>>> wanted to call out one more important date. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> We have a last day for feature proposal date which is typically a > >>>>>>> month before feature freeze date. If following 4.3 schedule + 4 > >> month > >>>>>>> it would have been 2/14 and we are already past that. Since it was > >> not > >>>>>>> announced for > >>>>>>> 4.4 release yet my suggestion would be to keep feature proposal > >> open > >>>>>>> for another week and push all the dates out by 2 weeks to give > >> folks > >>>>>>> opportunity to finish up their features for new proposals that are > >> yet > >>>>>>> to come out. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> To be clear that would mean pushing out feature freeze to 3/28 from > >>>>>>> 3/14 and all the other dates likewise. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks > >>>>>>> Animesh > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>> From: Animesh Chaturvedi [mailto:animesh.chaturv...@citrix.com] > >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 1:05 PM > >>>>>>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > >>>>>>>> Subject: RE: 4.4 Feature Freeze > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> With the experience of 4.2 and 4.3 I think we should discuss if > >> we > >>>>>>>> can realistically achieve 4 month cycle our RCs take 2 months. I > >> was > >>>>>>>> going to open up the discussion after 4.3 is shipped though. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>> From: Trippie [mailto:trip...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Hugo > >>>>>>>>> Trippaers > >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 8:50 AM > >>>>>>>>> To: <dev@cloudstack.apache.org> > >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: 4.4 Feature Freeze > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hey, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> If we stick to our 4 month release schedule the feature freeze > >> is > >>>>>>>>> four months after the feature freeze of 4.3. The feature > >> freeze of > >>>>>>>>> 4.3 was > >>>>>>> 8 Nov > >>>>>>>> 2013. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> So the proposed release schedule for 4.4 would look like this > >>>>>>>>> (dates slightly modified to take efficiency and RM's personal > >> life > >>>>>>>>> into > >>>>>>> account ;-) ): > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Feature Freeze: March 14, 2014 > >>>>>>>>> Testing/Bug Fixes: March 15, 2014 till April > >> 18, > >>>>>> 2014 > >>>>>>>>> (direct access for committers) > >>>>>>>>> Stability Fixes only: April 19, 2014 till > >>>>>>> release (cherry picks > >>>>>>>>> by RM only) > >>>>>>>>> First RC: May 9, 2014 > >>>>>>>>> Optimistic Release Date: May 19, 2014 > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hugo > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On 25 feb. 2014, at 16:35, Sudha Ponnaganti > >>>>>>>>> <sudha.ponnaga...@citrix.com> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I am also looking for feature freeze dates for 4.4. 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