Apologies everyone, Jared pointed out that I didn't actually link to the
bug correctly: Bug 1238982

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1238982

On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 7:10 AM, Helen Holmes <hhol...@mozilla.com> wrote:

> There's actually a bug on file <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi>
> with designs that I'd like to implement for exposing panels better than
> they currently. (If you look at the mockups, not dissimilar to what Nick's
> suggesting!)
>
> As for whether or not we should always expose the Memory tool on a clean
> install, I think we're hoping to drive the answers to those questions with
> better data. I believe Jordan created an etherpad
> <https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/devtools-telemetry> that probably
> needs some love when it comes to thinking about what telemetry probes we
> want to add and who owns what data in devtools. As far as I currently know:
> the memory is not on by default in release and it might be in both dev
> edition and nightly (Jeff would know for certain as resident Telemetry
> King).
>
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 6:12 PM, Gijs Kruitbosch <gijskruitbo...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> On 14/01/2016 23:01, Nick Fitzgerald wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Jared Wein <j...@mozilla.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Also, what is the plan for making tools like the Memory view appear in a
>>> default install? In other words, without having to go to the Settings. I
>>> worry that users may not know to click on the Settings and just think that
>>> other browsers offer more tools than we do.
>>>
>>
>> ​This is a good conversation to have, but I don't have any good answers.
>> We have a lot of panels in the devtools, many of which are fairly niche,
>> and it isn't clear how to simultaneously give them visibility and not
>> overwhelm users.
>>
>> Console, debugger, performance: these panels are ​a clear "always show"
>> to me. The web audio tool is very niche and so I don't think it would make
>> sense to show it by default. The memory tool falls in between in my mind.
>> I'm open to suggestions!
>>
>> We could add a [...] or similar button at the end with a dropdown for the
>> other tools? With some TBD as to whether that enables them permanently or
>> just for that site and/or how to toggle that.
>> (pulling in Helen because I think she might have better ideas :-) )
>>
>> ~ Gijs
>>
>
>
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