Joerg Jaspert writes ("Re: [RFC] General Resolution to deploy tag2upload"): > On 17262 March 1977, Sean Whitton wrote: > > I would ask you not to characterise the disagreement we are having as > > merely over a technical detail. > > You see this as personal? I don't, but if it is not technical, what > else?
I think Sean means it's not a detail. From our point of view, we're talking about a critical property of our design. > Which behind the scenes? To who did you talk? Firstly, I want to ask: would it have made any difference if we had raised the matter in public again on -devel? Based on your replies here, it seems that ftpmaster's objections are still just as firm now as they have been over the past four years. We wouldn't want to keep asking the same question on a list like -devel, when we are pretty sure the answer will just be the same; that would be rude to both ftpmaster and the rest of Debian. Anyway, if we're going down this route: I think we didn't speak to ftpmaster directly about this since 2019. I don't want to name names in case this turns into a finger-pointing exercise, but, over the years, we have spoken to various people, with varying levels of formality: * We made fairly formal appeals to two sitting DPLs. What we got was, basically, attempts at mediation, or facilitation of discussions. We didn't see that as helpful, since we saw an irreconcilable gap between our position and ftpmaster's. Sean and I were under the impression that the most recent response we got from a sittinug DPL was sent to us after consulting with ftpmaster. * We have asked for help from two sitting members of the TC, and one former DPL. I don't think any of those people would have spoken to ftpmaster, but neither did they suggest that we should raise the matter on -devel again. One outcome of that was encouragement to give the talk I did at the 2023 Cambridge minidebconf. I explicitly stated that the project was blocked by ftpmaster, but of course I don't expect ftpmaster to have necessarily seen that talk. Ian. -- Ian Jackson <ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> These opinions are my own. Pronouns: they/he. If I emailed you from @fyvzl.net or @evade.org.uk, that is a private address which bypasses my fierce spamfilter.