> > If this is the case, we don't need to take any special action. On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 09:16:56AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > You think it is fine that we distribute something that is marching > towards "crap"?
If that's just a trend, and not what it is, then yes. > > > To me, it's about living up to our own goals, and being the great force > > > in favor of Free Software that we can be. > > > > You do realize, don't you, that our current explicitly stated goals > > conflict with the goals you've claimed for us? [In particular, your > > idea that users need to be protected from non-free software is at odds > > with the social contract.] > > That is not my idea, and I explicitly stated that it is not. Removing > non-free from our mirror network does not mean removing support for > people that wish to run non-free software on their Debian systems. But, non-free on our mirror network is a part of that support. You probably meant to say: "Removing non-free from our mirror network does not mean removing all support for people that wish to run non-free software on their Debian systems." [I added the word "all".] > > Maybe you should provide a proposal which states the goals you'd want > > us to be following. > > Did you miss this? > > http://www.debian.org/vote/2000/vote_0008 In a sense -- I didn't try reviewing the last three years of mail archives to figure out what you were taking about. Ok, I now understand what point you're arguing. I suppose somebody should formally repropose all those proposals from back then, now that our voting system can deal with them. Thanks, -- Raul