On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 01:17:37AM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
> 
> > installation is broken.  Given the complexity of your haystack, I expect
> > finding and fixing the needle(s) would be time prohibitive.
> It is indeed, David. The package managers apt and synaptic cannot find
> anything wrong, and I should be on record as reporting that opening any
> local file takes a minimum of 30 seconds to pop up the requester, during
> which time the system is also locked.  I've installed some stuff folks have
> suggested to no avail so I gave up wasting everybody's time and just put up
> with it. memtest86 has toured the 32gigs several times but doesn't find
> anything. Frustrating but apparently it hasn't bothered anyone else. It
> would very helpful if something stuck up a hand or did the gotta pee dance
> but in 2 years nothing has. Maybe its something leftover from ripping out
> orca and brltty that I tried to stop by a fresh install around 30 times. 
> The installer put them in even when I said no.
> > 

Gene,

You make life difficult for yourself (and, coincidentally, for the rest of us
who try to follow what you've done :) )

You've got an NVME drive that's unused, I think, that you could put onto your
motherboard. Bring your system to the minimum you can - disconnect the other
drives for the meantime. Install Debian to that drive - standard, stable Debian.

Gradually reinstate the other drives and potentially copy data across once
you have a simple stable Debian 12.

The 30 installs you did resulted in a whole stream of annoyed emails: that was
almost entirely because you had a USB serial device. Simplify, simplify,
simplify.

If all else fails, get hold of a secondhand machine that you can use to 
troubleshoot problems like this rather than your main machine.

All best, as ever,

Andy Cater
(amaca...@debian.org)

> > 
> > When I destabilize a system, my preferred solution is a backup,
> > re-image, and restore cycle.  To make this solution possible, I have
> > invested myself in disaster preparedness.  And, I must continue
> > investing effort on a regular basis to keep it viable.
> > 
> > 
> > When all I had was data backups, my best option was backup, wipe, fresh
> > install, and restore.
> > 
> > 
> > Things were truly scary before I had decent data backups.
> > 
> > 
> > If you rebuild the computer as a hypervisor host (using the NVMe PCIe
> > SSD) and a storage server (using the various SATA SSD's), you can do all
> > the experimentation you want inside virtual machines. If a VM blows up,
> > the base system keeps running and so do the other VM's.  This removes
> > your current problem of "all of your eggs in one basket".  Also, a good
> > hypervisor makes it easy to snapshot and revert VM's.  This facilitates
> > disaster preparedness and disaster recovery for the VM's.  You would
> > still need data backups; use the HDD's.
> > 
> > 
> > David
> > 
> > .
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
> -- 
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>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
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>  - Louis D. Brandeis
> 

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