On 03-07-17, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: > I run Debian on my laptops and several servers. > > On my laptop I've had several recent occasions when it has been irksome > to try and find the cause of a service not starting or shutting down, > and I've concluded that I'd like to move away from systemd as I don't > like the binary log. > > This isn't a conceptual/design issue as I don't know enough of init > fundamentals to make an informed judgement. It also isn't related to the > recent Slashdot article about DNS crashes and root privs escalation. > https://it.slashdot.org/story/17/07/03/0343258/severe-systemd-bug-allowed-remote-code-execution-for-two-years > or the (possibly incorrectly reported) statements by Lennart Poettering > noted at "What are the pros/cons of Upstart and systemd?" > https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/5877/what-are-the-pros-cons-of-upstart-and-systemd > > I additionally find the configuration and documentation off-putting. > These are trivial points, but the classic /etc config files seem to be > being replaced with ini style files with non-explicit defaults. The > documentation is wordy and also sometimes obtuse. e.g. "To disable a > configuration file supplied by the vendor, the recommended way is to > place a symlink to /dev/null in the configuration directory" and > repeated references to "vendors" (which is almost certainly the wrong > word). > > Simply put; systemd doesn't suit me. Its a bit like being asked to use > an graphical editor instead of vi. Or being forced to use Windows. My > laptop doesn't feel like my machine anymore. > > Is there a pure Debian alternative? > > Thanks > Rory >
You can still use Debian without systemd as init. Explained here: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/05/msg00538.html If you would prefer that it is some derivate/fork of Debian without systemd, I do not have personal experience with those, but I'm sure that you will get few hints.