On Tue, 2014-07-08 at 13:12 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > Le 08.07.2014 00:46, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : > > On Lu, 07 iul 14, 23:41:59, Miroslav Hrabal wrote: > >> > >> Regarding reboot and shutdown, it's possible to handle this giving > >> regular users sudo permission to use /sbin/shutdown (or > >> halt/reboot), > >> isn't it? Regarding automounting, I thought that it's usually > >> handled > >> by gvfs? Why would anybody had to use systemd because of it? > >> (Sorry if I'm mistaken) > > > > Because you can't do it securely, unless you can reliably and > > securely > > distinguish between users that are logged on locally or remote[1]. > > > > Just imagine that "fun" one can have on a multi-user system by > > remotely: > > - shutting down the system > > - reading contents of removable storage > > - listening in on audio streams (even the microphone) > > - recording from the webcam (bonus points for disabling the activity > > led) > > > > If you find a way to solve this by using only traditional Unix groups > > I'm sure a lot of people would like to know how. > > I can't, but I want to ask some questions about that problem you > describe. > Are remote desktop the majority of linux uses? > Do you really need remote capabilities when you use your own computer? > What is the need of remote desktops on servers which are not dedicated?
exactly. why does Linux want to be a Windows DE? (multi-graph-sessions)? because someone calls 'it is a modern system'? usually, if one system is used by several people, that is a server and the servers (if its admin learnt a little) doesn't have GUI because it's not necessary. > > In short, is it smart to give a dependency to everyone for something > which seems really addressing a problem for a minority? Especially when > it makes that much noise? > > Indeed, it's nice to have a software able to solve those issues. But, > why not only making it a opt-in, instead of opt-out? > Because of the major DEs? Seriously, I think they are wrong since the > day I definitely switched on linux, from windows, because windows'DE > tries to do too much, and so takes a lot more resources that it really > should. But... +1 > I am not trying to impose my opinion and my uses to everyone (ok, to be > honest, when I can convince someone to use i3, I try hehe. But I will > never ask for the removal of gnome as the default Debian's DE.). > >
