At 2025-04-15T16:45:40+0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> I think this is because there's a substantial contingent in Debian who
> "hate politics".  They see us "doing politics" and dislike us for it.
> They think think Debian can avoid politics (spoiler: it's a project of
> thousands of humans, we can't) and therefore they think the drama is
> the fault of whoever is complaining.
> 
> In these circumstances it is hardly surprising that we have some teams
> that are well-known to be dysfunctional and toxic, but which nothing
> is ever done about.  Anyone who tries to take them on gets punished,
> because taking on toxicity is by definition political.
> 
> I wish we could get *better* at doing politics.  If we did it better,
> we would have much a nicer environment *and* we would probably spend a
> lot less emotional energy on the politics, overall.

I vigorously endorse these observations (and the rest of your message).

The price of cowardice is to be governed by bullies.

Regards,
Branden

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