Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 07:52:14PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>> Brian Thomas Sniffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> >> But the QPL doesn't require that any changes include your name. It's
>> >> possible to provide those modifications to the general public without
>> >> being traceable. It doesn't seem any riskier to the dissident than the
>> >> GPL's provisions.
>
>> >The dissident test is not about protecting dissidents from their evil
>> >governments.  It is about protecting them from copyright infringement
>> >claims for sane things they did while in the grip of their evil
>> >governments.  The QPL allows some evil government to come after the
>> >dissident for failure to disclose his works when under their control.
>
> Er, this quote from Brian seems to have turned the dissident test on its
> head.  It's not about protecting dissidents from copyright infringement
> claims at all, it's about protecting them from being *drawn and quartered*
> by their government as a byproduct of complying with the license.  The
> problem with the QPL is that it allows a government that monitors all
> international correspondence to identify and murder those dissidents who
> are complying with the license.

I think we have very different understandings of the dissident test --
mine has been shaped by continual objection that evil governments will
just draw and quarter all the suspects anyway, or that dissidents
won't comply with the license for safety reasons.

>> The dissident test only makes any sense at all because it suggests that
>> certain license provisions will result in bad things happening to the
>> dissident if he complies with them. I am unconvinced that following the
>> QPL's requirements would increase the risk any more than following the
>> GPL's requirements. The GPL allows some evil government to come after
>> the dissident if he thinks that it's too dangerous to give his source
>> code to recipients of binaries.
>
> Given the above, there is a big difference between communicating source
> code to those you're already choosing to distribute binaries to given
> whatever secure means you have, and communicating source code to an
> untrusted third party.  I can't think of any danger arising from
> distributing source with binaries that couldn't reasonably be addressed
> by sanitizing the code in question to hide its authorship.  Copyleft also
> doesn't concern itself with contributors being branded idiot programmers
> based on the quality of their code, and I find this to be entirely
> sensible.

The test itself, though, remains clear: Any requirement for sending
source modifications  to anyone other than the recipient of the
modified binary---in  fact any forced distribution at all, beyond
giving source to those  who receive a copy of the binary -- is non
free.

-Brian

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Brian Sniffen                                       [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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