On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 06:05:51PM GMT, Otto Kekäläinen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> > > While I personally think e-mail-based workflows can be quite nice, the
> > > BTS' asynchronous nature did cause me a lot of extra pointless work
> > > when I was an outsider attempting to learn the ropes. Being not 100%
> > > confident with the system, I way too often found myself waiting
> > > minutes – as much as 10 or 15 – for replies to simple operations.
> >
> > agree with this. Also the noisy reply to every message is pretty
> > unhelpful - even gmail cant work out what is being acknowledged
> >
> >
> > I'd like to help improve the docuemntation, and suggest ways to make it
> > less confusing to use, but the bts's own bug list makes me wonder if
> > anyone would review
> 
> I submitted 4 years ago
> https://salsa.debian.org/debbugs-team/debbugs/-/merge_requests/6,
> which got some approving comments, but nobody merged it. Your time is
> probably better used contributing to the Debian Developers Reference
> or other docs.
> 
> Honestly, I suspect bugs.debian.org is intentionally cumbersome to use
> to deter "noobies", and raise the bar for submission so high, that any
> bug that actually gets filed is likely already well researched by a
> Debian expert and half of the time comes with a patch attached.
> Unfortunately it also leads to maintainers having to put more effort
> in maintaining the bug reports as the barrier for contributors to help
> out with bug triage etc way too high.
> 

Btw, for triage I used to suggest https://fabre.debian.net to newcomers. I had
some hope that it could be a start for something bigger, so I tried to have
access to the code to improve a few things but never had an answer from the
maintainer :\

Just pointing out this somewhat unknown project which is still online.

Bests,

--
Tiago Vaz

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