On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 9:35 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de> wrote: > On 07/19/2013 06:12 PM, Mathieu Parent wrote: >> >> As the recommended way to install systemd is using init= and not >> installing systemd-sysv, maybe the popcon "vote" count is the correct >> metric? > > > Plus, systemd isn't pulled in by anything else which means when it's > there it's there because it was actively installed. I don't think it > magically lands onto a user's hard disk or someone installs it just > in order to not use it actually.
On the contrary, in experimental, gnome-shell depends on gnome-settings-daemon, which in turn depends on systemd. I wouldn't be surprised if this is one of the reasons sid still has version 3.4 of the shell, rather than the latest upstream version (3.8). If/when gnome-shell 3.8 hits unstable and systemd gets forced on end users as well...I dare say that the general outcry here on debian-devel would make the past network-manager related threads look tame in comparison. I offer my deepest condolences to the gnome maintainers in advance (I doubt that they're looking forward to dealing with all this). Regards, Vincent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CACZd_tC4acLy=Ant-0KsHCz-g0UsW5vO8Qx2O6=tpmj6nfk...@mail.gmail.com