Am 18.11.2015 um 08:17 schrieb Patty Langasek:
You are walking into the middle of a debate that has been raging for years.
So it's time to end this (or if not possible at least postpone it) and
draw conclusions. To me there is no value in looking at egos colliding
for much longer.
Possibly all that is constructive to the process has been said. And if
not, there has been a full month of discussion time and I do not see any
need to extend that indefinitely.
There have been very valuable comments on the Titanpads, on ML and on
IRC. And there have been personal accusations, aggression and tedious
re-iterations of solitary personal positions.
The first batch of contributions, we shall incorporate; the second batch
I can only advise to ignore.
While it seems exhausting (and it is, there's a reason I've been silent
through DC15 and up until now), this is how Debian works. For frustrations,
for bad, and for good - we debate.
May be that is true for many aspects of Debian.
But this cannot work for the DebConf. There are deadlines and we work
against them.
So discussions need to be over when the time for discussion has passed.
People need to move on and work on their tasks in the assigned time frames.
If everybody misses their deadlines because they are bound in
discussions about meta-topics, we'll be in "rolling from crisis to
crisis" mode as your husband worded so nicely.
And this seems to have burned out people in the past. So we should avoid
setting the scene for that again.
If this is offending your time commitments, then I fear you haven't really
evaluated
Debian, or DebConf, before you volunteered to lead the charge to host a
conference. The unfortunate news I have for you is if you don't have time
for*this*, just wait until the final countdown to DC16.
I find this comment unnecessarily offensive. Bernelle is doing an
awesome job.
There is a difference between wasting time and working effectively
towards a desirable target.
The folks that I work with for DC16 prefer to reduce the wasted time and
increase the effective use of the finite time available.
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