Hi all This email relates to having a meeting to decide how to move forward with the Chair/Delegation situation.
The three proposals at play are: [1] - A two-person delegation [2] - A new -ctte annually [3] - The original 2011 proposal Can we discuss this at a formal meeting this Wednesday 18:30 UTC (20:30 SAST), with a decision taken by the end of that meeting. If there's unclarity about time due to DST or whatever, it's the time that fits with 20:30 SAST. ___________________ My opinion is the following: Use the 2011 proposal [3], but change the three Chair roles to two, to avoid time wasted with internal chair-deliberations, renamed to 'Delegates' for clarity. One role takes the Continuity role (making sure there is mentoring available, either by the Delegate themself, or by putting the new teammembers in touch with the relevant people), and the other the Controlling role (e.g. budget), as per [1]. Assigning the Delegates should be done however it was done for the 2011 proposal. I think the underlying process needs work, so I would suggest the delegates should check that there are a few experienced DebConfers helping bid teams before the decisions, sothat there is a clear understanding that the teams are competent by the time bid decisions are made. Paraphrasing an earlier thread: "The bidding team's own conference orga experience and dedication [can be gauged through participation by experienced DebConfers and] combined with the DebConf knowledge brought to the table through the early supporters can result in a very convincing bid by a team that included non-locals." It goes without saying that I find this whole thing exhausting, and I couldn't care how we solve this either way, as long as it goes away. Hopefully, by the end of the meeting on Wednesday, there is a plan to achieve this. My personal opinion is also, that these three proposals are pretty much the same, and the only thing stopping them from converging is ego. So swallow the ego - ALL of you, grow your big-person panties, find a way to make all three proposals fit into one, and by no later than Wednesday evening. And if I see one snarky reply going on the defensive I'm sending this whole thread to spam and you'll have to make do without me. I don't have time for this childish shit. Cheers B [1] - https://titanpad.com/DC16-draft-delegation-proposal [2] - https://titanpad.com/DC16-draft-delegation-proposal-alternative [3] - https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2011/03/msg00005.html _______________________________________________ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team