Lol, the fancier hotels are *out* of town. :) There are a few fancy ones in
town, especially around the international conference centre (CTICC), but
they're so uppity I can't stand them. Don't think they're value for money
either, the CTICC isn't.

My favourite fancy hotel is in Newlands, walking distance (albeit half an
hour or so?) from campus: http://www.vineyard.co.za/  Incidentally some of
my favourite pubs - Barristers and Forries are en route. (Coincidence, I
think not)
There's so many hotels with their own offerings - nature or vibey or
fancier or whatever, that people will just have to see what they really
like and find it on a map, we can advise on the details.... (If we get the
bid we'll certainly do work on a recommended list!)

The hotels are also clustered around suburbs, and conference centres -
we're really spoilt for choice!

Even downtown party'ing there's other options than town too, there's not a
'central' place where aaaall the people go party...

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Gunnar Wolf <gw...@gwolf.org> wrote:

> Hi again, Bernelle :)
>
> > > > We did obtain quotes for 'dinner shuttles' - 14 seater buses to be
> used
> > > > ad hoc, see
> > > >
> > >
> https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf16/Bids/Cape_Town/Potential_Venues#Transport_jottings
> > >
> > > Right, but I worry more about the daily trips that attendees will make.
> > >
> > It would be silly to stay in town and commute daily to the debconf venue,
> > in my opinion... We are only considering venues with very close
> > accommodation.
>
> There's always a group of people who choose to stay in a "fancier"
> hotel than what most of the sponsored attendees get. Would they be
> able to stay nearer the venue?
>
> > > > This may be a weak point of this venue, but at any other venue we
> would
> > > > have to organise transport after dark as well, and possibly right
> > > > through the day too.
> > >
> > > Oh. I understood that the other venue option would be of walking
> > > distance of most amenities. Can you elaborate on this?
> >
> >  I think there might be a perception here that town is where most is
> > happening, which I think is not necessarily the case. Cape Town, as most
> of
> > South Africa, has extensive urban sprawl, and the places to hang out are
> > clustered in suburbs. Every suburb has it's 'feel' and it's famous
> eateries
> > and attractions. So all venues will have walking distance amenities (Cape
> > Town team please correct me or elaborate?). The university campus is also
> > walking distance from amenities, getting back to the venue just has a
> steep
> > uphill. It's just getting to town proper that is a bit more of a mission.
> > In my personal view, town is a touristy thing or a weekend-ey thing to
> do,
> > and to do once and once only.
> >
> > I think from a long ago discussion we're more similar to the US in our
> > urban design than Europe, but may be completely off the ball here.
>
> OK, this is an important point which I think slipped for most of us. I
> also had the understanding this campus was basically set away from
> everything. If there are enough amenities to keep people happy and
> entertained, the need to go downtown will be much diminished. Maybe,
> yes, we could organize a (or some) night group trip to the downtown,
> as we also have the right to see the touristy stuff ;-)
>
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