Hi Holger Levsen <hol...@layer-acht.org> writes:
> Hi, > > [mostly madduck and aba were discussing some details about german association > law and power structures...] > > which reminds me of a problem / contradiction we had at DebConf13...: > > - there is a legal entity, which claims to be responsible to be dealing with > all the money and expensives and holding the conference... said association. > > - and there is, "a Debian entity", these DPL delegated chairs which according > to the delegation are responsible how Debian assets are handled. > > These two can contradict each other, up to the point were I felt useless as > chair as I was told (by a dc13 board member none the less) that the dc13 > board > had the final say anyway. > > _Not_ just saying... this heavily (de)motivated and (de)motivates my > motivation to be a DebConf chair... when I'm not demotivated about this I > rather think like in http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian- > meetings/2013/debconf13/high/1089_debconf_governance.ogv - the slides of that > bof are attached here. > What would you propose instead of founding a legal entity to organize DebConf then? At least in my view organizing an event of this size without the legal security of a separate legal body seems insane. At least in Swiss legislation (and German's is quite similar in the main points). Not having a legal body makes members of the local team personally liabale for almost everything. That's not a risk I would be willing to take. I agree that these legal setups proved to be difficult in the past. But I also think that much of the frustration (at least for DC13) was also based on misunderstandings. If you read our bylaws the DC13 association board member was just wrong (at least if this was such a general statement). I just dont see how an alternative setup without a legal entity to organize DebConf could work and would really like to have some suggestions from those that oppose this setup. Gaudenz -- Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better. ~ Samuel Beckett ~ _______________________________________________ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
