On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 04:59:50PM +0200, gregor herrmann wrote: > On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 10:50:26 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > Clarifying something from Patty's original mail, the precise limits on the > > venue are: > [..] > > - August 22: earliest date that PSU can accomodate a full set of people > > in the dorms > [..] > Just to clarify: does this mean that the dorms are available in > theory earlier for a smaller group of people? If yes, do you happen > to know the dates / number of places? I believe the answer is that in theory, yes - there may be some spaces in the dorms. I have in my mind that we need < 20 people for DebConf setup, and have the informal impression in talking with PSU that they would be able to fit this many people. But we haven't talked numbers/dates for pre-DebConf accomodation, and in any case I don't know if those are the right numbers. Obviously it's a different conversation if we're going to have DebCamp or sprints that week, vs. only needing to accomodate DebConf setup. What would help for moving this conversation forward with PSU is to have solid order-of-magnitude estimates from our side for how many people we need for pre-conference setup and for how long. Is 20 people for two days enough to do all the setup at the venue (for video and network)? Is that excessive? (For my part, I think 2 days should be plenty of time, and that 20 people is actually excessive - but I've gotten the impression that the people running the teams don't necessarily agree, so I'd like to hear straight from them what their expectations are.) As for DebCamp, http://debconf-data.alioth.debian.org/stats/ already gives me a pretty clear idea of what to expect numbers-wise; assuming that people arriving within 2 days of the start of the conference are not DebCamp attendees but merely early arrivers, we have the following numbers (on-site accom + self-arranged accom): DC13: 47+0 DC12: 66+6 DC11: 67+5 DC10: 62+8 So for having DebCamp before/after the conference with on-site accomodation in the dorms, we'd be looking at accomodating roughly 70 people, plus the setup crew (20 people?) for the last couple of days. We can take that question to PSU to see if they could accomodate that in the dorms. I expect the answer is "no", but it doesn't hurt to ask. And I'm basically taking the position that, where the DebConf advanced team is concerned, accomodation is not a major problem. Even if we can't fit them in the dorms, the numbers should be small enough that we can figure something else out. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer http://www.debian.org/ slanga...@ubuntu.com vor...@debian.org
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