Hi Gaudenz, hi all, Le mardi, 14 mai 2013 17.00:02, Gaudenz Steinlin a écrit : > Didier 'OdyX' Raboud <o...@debian.org> writes: > > Le mardi, 14 mai 2013 12.24:49, Moray Allan a écrit : > >> The main reason to disallow people who ask for sponsorship from being > >> part of the team is to ensure the appearance of correctness/probity. > >> > >> As has been pointed out, each year we have easily enough (sufficiently > >> knowledgeable) people who are not asking for travel sponsorship, so > >> there is no reason to make the process look murkier by including people > >> who ask for it on the team. > > > > I think _actual_ correctness matters more than the appearance of it. As > > already mentionned, ways to ensure that include having more people on the > > team, request that the team publishes its guidelines and processes, > > status updates, etc. Taking people off the team is not convincingly > > improving anything in that regard to me. > > I agree that actual correctness matters most. But exactly because of > this I think we should not allow raters that themself request *travel* > sponsorship. (…)
Thanks Gaudenz. Without dismissing the value of your arguments, I still disagree: I really think that forbidding a significant proportion of attendees (10-25% ?) from being part of the herb@ team is defeating the diversity goal. It feels to me like a democracy with two classes of citizens: those not asking for sponsorship get to have a say in how the travel sponsorship money (Debian money) is used for a good DebConf; those who ask don't. That said, I see little value in continuing this discussion as the expressed consensus is obviously not supporting my view. Let's then form the herb@ team without people asking for travel sponsorship and make sure it is empowered, trusted and effective! Cheers, OdyX _______________________________________________ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
