On Thu, 5 May 2011 17:08:48 +0200, Josip Rodin <j...@entuzijast.net> wrote: > On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 04:31:03PM +0200, Ana Guerrero wrote: > > > > - if you arrive/departure very late/early to Zagreb, what are your > > > > options? > > > > > > http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/Travel-Arriving > > > > Thanks Josip! That link has a lot of the information I was requesting. > > BTW as far as that last matter is concerned, can you give an example?
Ah, that's irritating timing, I read this after I spent the afternoon discovering most of the information that's on that wiki page via other means. It would be very helpful for others if that was more obviously linked on the "Getting there" page, or some such. Ah, I see it now is, good -- that should be more prominent though IMO, and should probably come before both the LAND and AIR bits -- actually, they are pretty useless when compared to the Travel-Arriving page, so should probably just go, or be incorporated into that page. The "LAND" bit, that is offered first assumes you're driving, which is one of the less likely options, so should perhaps go later. The "AIR" seems to assume that you'll be flying into Banja Luka direct, which I think very few people will manage, and there is no "RAIL" option. There should be a strong indication that people need to make their way to Zagreb (unless people have alternative suggestions that I've failed to notice). One thing that should be highlighted is that the buses are faster than the trains, and run more often, for the final hundred kilometres or so. This should be stated repeatedly, with accompanying facts to back it up, because it seems pretty odd to someone from the UK at least, to the point that I pretty much decided that it simply must be nonsense until I'd found all the relevant timetables and confirmed it for myself. Yes, I know you told me that, and yes I'm an idiot for not simply believing it, but it just struck me as something I ought to confirm because it seemed odd that a bus should be preferred over a train for that sort of distance. For instance, even the sleeper train from Munich, which would think is one of the fast trains that are hinted at in the notes on the tips page, takes longer to get from Zagreb than the bus that sets off at about the same time -- I think this should be emphasised on the site, since it just didn't fit into my head that that could really be the case until I'd found and then compared all the timetables -- it would be good to save others from wasting their time in the same way. I've put some information here (i.e. the bus timetable and following notes): http://wiki.earth.li/DebconfTravel2011/Train that might be worth transferring over into a bus timetable section, if a local can confirm the times -- the Banja Luka --> Zagreb times might help too. It would also be good to mention things like the fact that, yes there is a bus and train from Sarajevo, but the times are pretty unlikely to make you happy, so getting flights there is probably pointless. The same goes for Belgrade from what I can tell. Then again, I might have missed things, since my research was all online, and partly via bablefish. I would do all these edits myself, except that I'm still not sure that I've got all this right, so a local should fact-check, and whoever is editing things just now probably has better ideas than me about how it should look in the end. I hope that helps. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] http://www.hands.com/ |-| HANDS.COM Ltd. http://www.uk.debian.org/ |(| 10 Onslow Gardens, South Woodford, London E18 1NE ENGLAND
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