Am Montag, 22. Februar 2016, 22:29:54 schrieb shlomi braitbart: > Hi Hi.
> The build number I worked on is > 2.1.0+339~g8f84fab Ok, that's master, which is fine, especially in the current state where we try to figure out how to do these things. > I gave lighttable and darkroom interfaces a second look and I think what > bothers me most is the sidebars flip in both. I think language has nothing > to do with their position and that they should stay in the original > position. The workflow just feels better that way. aside from that, the > lighttable order is fine. Ok, so the sidebars should be kept as they are in the original. I made 2 screenshots, one from the English GUI and one from the Hebrew, and added some numbers to it [0]. If you have some time, could you please go through the following questions and answer them with regard to those numbers? I am mostly interested in what a user of a RTL (right-to-left) language would expect to see. 1. Should the logo be on the left and the mode-selection on the right, or should it be flipped? 2. When two widgets are in a logical hierarchy, how should they be ordered? For example in collect, the dropdown sets the mode of the rule while the text entry is using that set mode. 3. When showing a table of values, for example in image information, but also in preferences, should the key be on the left and the value on the right (as in the English version) or should it be changed (as it's in the Hebrew screenshot)? 4. How are numbers to be shown? 5. What about file system locations (paths, filenames)? Starting from the left, or broken down to have the root at the right? 6. In the rating filter we use a combination of a label "view", a button with a mathematical operator and a dropdown with the stars to form kind of a sentence or mathematical expression. How would that be ordered best? For me the operator is already flipped (I wonder how that happens, must be some fancy magic), so I assume that the three parts should be reversed as it's currently the case? 7. How do normal file managers show icons of files when the row isn't full? Empty space on the left or right? 8. Would you prefer to have the toolbars (applies both to top and bottom) to be ordered as in the English version? 9. This is about hierarchy again. In the English GUI we have the two important, always shown modes (lighttable and darkroom) first and then a dropdown for the rest. I assume that should therefore be flipped in RTL? This also influences (1) as it looks strange when the logo is kept on the left and the view selection is so that the dropdown is on the left (i.e., like in the current Hebrew screenshot) with the dropdown arrow being somewhere in the middle of the screen. 10. How should GUI elements be aligned when there is empty padding next to them? I assume to the right? 11. Now about our custom bauhaus widgets that don't honour RTL at all: Should the label of the dropdown be on the right? I think so? 12. Same with sliders. Label on the right? And what way should the slider go? 0 being on the right and 100 on the left? 13. Last but not least, hierarchy AGAIN: the label explaining the meaning of the two settings next to them should probably be on the right? But in what order do you specify image dimensions? Width × height? Or height × width? So, how should these two entries be shown? That's it, I would be glad if you could go through them one by one and tell us. I can't promise that we will adapt all changes at once, some might be harder to fix than others, but at least it would allow us to start going into the right (or left :)) direction. [...] > Shlomi Tobias [0] https://houz.org/tmp/rtl.pdf
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