2011/7/4 Andrés Domínguez <[email protected]>: > 2011/7/4 Erik van der Werf <[email protected]>: >> >> If the program can play 30k level moves against you and still win its >> a strong indication that you were playing a hopeless position. Sure >> it's annoying, but that's because you should have resigned. > > I don't know if you are a Go player or not.
I am. > If you are I suppose you never lose by points, always by resign. No, I'm not *that* good in counting, when the game is close I like to verify manually. However, probably more than 50% of my games end by resignation. Most of my opponents usually resign earlier than I would; I'm trying to get better at that :-) > If you are losing by 6 points in the final stage of the small endgame you > resing, isn't it? It depends on many things. E.g., is it a leisure game, a serious tournament, team competition (how did the rest of the team do), who is my opponent (what is the chance I can trick him), etc. However, when my opponents starts to play moves that makes it obvious that he (thinks he) has a sure win (i.e., ignore my moves, remove all aji, solidify everything, pass, etc.) then there's a good chance I'll do a quick count and then resign. Anyway, I certainly wouldn't complain about it... > Some > players (like me) like to do the counting stage of the game, _even_ > if we are losing, and we don't want the other player to play stupid > moves to win by 0.5 points. If you are this kind of player, there is a > problem with the bot endgame. Like I said, for analysis you can just reload with a different komi to make the bot work harder. > With you way of thinking the bot should never resing, because it > reduce the probability of winning. Please don't tell me how I'm thinking. IMO resigning is quite useful, in particular to get on with the next game. > Maybe can make two modes, "polite" when humans want to play > or watch the game, "boring" when only matters wins. That's a rather strange definition of "boring". I'd say the strongest mode (i.e., the one that wins most) is the most interesting one. If that means sacrificing some irrelevant stones in the endgame, so be it. Erik _______________________________________________ Computer-go mailing list [email protected] http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
