2011/7/4 Erik van der Werf <[email protected]>:
>
> If the program can play 30k level moves against you and still win its
> a strong indication that you were playing a hopeless position. Sure
> it's annoying, but that's because you should have resigned.

I don't know if you are a Go player or not. If you are I suppose you
never lose by points, always by resign. If you are losing by 6 points
in the final stage of the small endgame you resing, isn't it? Some
players (like me) like to do the counting stage of the game, _even_
if we are losing, and we don't want the other player to play stupid
moves to win by 0.5 points. If you are this kind of player, there is a
problem with the bot endgame.

With you way of thinking the bot should never resing, because it
reduce the probability of winning. Resign is only intended to finish
a boring game (human politeness), not to play better, not about
increasing the number of bot wins. Apart from that to humans is
not the same lose by 6 points or by 100 points, like is not the
same if a cyclist gets second in "le tour" by 3 minutes or by 2
hours.

IMHO this thread is about a Go player who is annoyed with the bot
endgame. If the author of the bot don't mind about human players,
all is right, but Leon wants to collaborate to change the situation.
Maybe can make two modes, "polite" when humans want to play
or watch the game, "boring" when only matters wins.

Andrés

P.D: I'm not sure the losing points moves of bots really increase
allways the real probability, maybe is an aliasing problem, a
statistical significance problem.
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