There have been several amazing breakthroughs in computer chess over the
years, so you don't know what you are talking about.     You don't really
believe we achieved several hundred ELO with only incremental refinements do
you?

But I don't really care how you classify each breakthrough, whether you want
to call it a minor refinement or a breakthrough is probably one of those
things we could debate endless point by point.    What matters is that they
added up to hundreds of ELO.

The same thing is happening in GO.  MCTS must be considered a breakthough
and it has been continuously improved on now for a few years and is
producing programs many stones stronger that before this.     Go back to
your programs of 40 years ago and compare them before being so negative and
pessimistic.





On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Dave Dyer <[email protected]> wrote:

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> >
> >This is WAY MORE than just alpha/beta and counting pieces.
>
> Of course, but these are incremental improvements, not qualitative ones.
> The 1950 chess program I described works pretty well.  On modern hardward,
> that program would beat the pants of 99% of serious chess players.
>
> By contrast, the corresponding Go program couldn't beat a goldfish.
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